Posted on 01/19/2016 7:41:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Today's Morning Jolt looks at the rumors surrounding Trump's "major announcement and special guest."
If you consider Ted Cruz the conservative ideal or near-ideal in terms of philosophical grounding, legal perspective, and ideological rigor - and the case for that seems pretty self-evident - then watching Tea Party leaders flock to Trump over him is pretty damn disappointing.
April 15, 2009 is largely seen as the birth date of the Tea Party movement. Here's what Trump was saying that day about President Obama:
TRUMP: Well, I think he's sort of a guy that just has a wonderful personality, a good speaker, somebody that people trust. And I also think that the comparison with his predecessor is so different - it's so huge that it really has made a great impact on people.
I think that he's really doing a nice job in terms of representation of this country. And he represents such a large part of the country.
I mean, to think that a black man was going to be elected president - I watched television for years where the great political analysts were saying maybe in 50, maybe in 100 years.
Here's a man that not only got elected, I think he's doing a really good job.
Now, the sad part is that he can't just do a good job. He's got to do a great job. Because if he does a good job, that's not good enough for this country. That's how bad the country has become.
KING: Do you assess him as a champion?
TRUMP: Oh, yes, he's a champion. I mean, he won against all odds. If you would have looked - when he first announced, people were giving him virtually no chance. And he's just done something that's amazing.
KING: More on Donald Trump...
TRUMP: He's totally a champion.
Later in that interview:
KING: You're not going to march with the tea party?
TRUMP: I don't march with the tea party. But I'll tell you what, they have a good point, because when you see the kind of money that this country is - to use a horrible expression, Larry, I know you've never heard this - but that this country is pissing away, I can understand where they're coming from.
Trump went on to defend the TARP bailouts: "If they didn't stuff the banks with money, we'd be in depression number two right now, Larry. I mean, we would be strongly in depression number two. So they did the right thing in putting money into the banks."
Trump, the guy who hosted two fundraisers for Charlie Crist in 2009. He donated to Harry Reid over Sharron Angle in 2010.
Trump, the guy who donated $50,000 to make Rahm Emanuel the mayor of Chicago.
In the founding days of the Tea Party, Donald Trump was exactly what they were fighting agains... and now some of those adherents have embraced him fully.
That's an crummy opinion, not a fact.
Obungo is a proven liar. [fact]
See the difference?
>> Not on meds? GET on some!
Ad hominem, and a lame one at that.
Can you summon up enough gray matter to comment on the substance of the article? Or does grappling with the merits of the discussion not fit with this morning’s order of worship?
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LOL! Nailed it.
You’re right. While it is hard to not respond to their hysterical blather, it isn’t going to convince anyone who isn’t already in the tank for Cruz. Meanwhile, Cruz’ actions and words are sending him backwards in the polls.
Trump will win Iowa and then all this foolish Cruz talk will be over with.
Good thoughts.
However, there a couple specific Snake Handlers here I enjoy digging at.
Other than a few Snake Handlers here, I agree.
Trump marches to no one, for better or worse.
Did you even read the article? The only thing Cruz admires Obama for was his campaign tactics and his ability to push through his agenda. He does not admire the man nor his policies. Trump admires the man and his policies. BIG difference.
As an old Freeper I recall Trump getting hammered on this forum for the King interview. I wonder if the same bashers in 2009 are the Trumpsters in 2016?
An objective accounting on amnesty and our candidates would point out the following.
Trump was for a legalization amnesty with no deportations for the non criminals with a consideration for a citizenship amnesty maybe later but not now, and that was in July of 2015.
After that it was deportations and a touchback amnesty for the good ones.
LOL!
Trump went to republican conventions as far back as 1988. Has he ever went to a democrat convention?
“Debunked more times than I can count”
What was debunked? Cruz accused Obama of putting a poison pill into the Gang of Eight bill.
After his supposed poison pill amendments failed, he came out and still called for comprehensive immigration reform.
Last week or so, he told a “dreamer” that our immigration system was “broken”. That was probably a slip from previous, before the campaign uses and thinking.
Re:”Can you summon up enough gray matter to comment on the substance of the article? Or does grappling with the merits of the discussion not fit with this morning’s order of worship?”
On the first question, the answer should be no.
On the second question, that cerebral musings are not their MO. The order of the day is invective, insult, insinuation and insipid repetition of the aforementioned.
We are not dealing with deep thinkers.
They like to scream and fling poo.
Six months ago Cruz was a hero on this forum. Now some of the crap I see posted would look extreme on the Daily Beast.
Re:”Six months ago Cruz was a hero on this forum. Now some of the crap I see posted would look extreme on the Daily Beast.”
It seems that the liberals have invaded this website.
The crap these buffoons post has no bearing in reality or conservatism.
The past is fact; based on circumstances long gone.
The future is speculation and bias... never fact.
NOTHING CAN POSSIBLY BE WORSE THAN THE LAST 7 YEARS, DAMMIT!
Go Trump!
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