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Iranian coup: A tale of two U.S. Navy vessels
Central View ^ | January 17, 2016 | William Hamilton, J.D., Ph.D.

Posted on 01/17/2016 1:57:49 PM PST by Taxman

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To: Taxman

Obama is not a traitor to the USA - at least not in the classic sense of the term.

A traitor is generally considered to be someone who is not loyal to his own country.

Obama is not a US citizen.

He is a foreign agent who has weasled his way into the presidency with the assistance of the US media and other liberals.


41 posted on 01/17/2016 2:45:51 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: gaijin

That makes as much sense as any of the other guesses out there. We KNOW we have not been told the truth at this point.


42 posted on 01/17/2016 2:47:36 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Snickering Hound
Really? A small craft having some engine trouble and asking for assistance goes so far up the chain of command that the White House intervenes?

You're being dangerously rational.

43 posted on 01/17/2016 2:48:51 PM PST by semimojo
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To: hal ogen

There’s still a year left. You ain’t seen nothing yet.


44 posted on 01/17/2016 2:49:21 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Taxman

45 posted on 01/17/2016 2:49:35 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: ratzoe

Oh Yeah, I just woke up this morning and said, why did I vote for that guy two times, and why did I pay for his tuition at Occidental and Columbia? That wasn’t very smart. He was such a smart lad at Punahoe, it must have been the dope he was smoking.


46 posted on 01/17/2016 2:49:59 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Taxman

47 posted on 01/17/2016 2:50:12 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
The look on their faces says 'we were set up'.

It sure does!

48 posted on 01/17/2016 2:50:51 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Taxman

My theory is he asked the Iranians for help and they agreed. It was going to be a bragging point in the SOTU address about how his diplomacy was working but the Iranians double-crossed him to use it for propaganda purposes. Another notch in the stupidity belt of the current regime.


49 posted on 01/17/2016 2:51:02 PM PST by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: Taxman

Read the article posted on here yesterday by Travis Mcgee,, American thinker writes article about me..... is the title.


50 posted on 01/17/2016 2:51:03 PM PST by easternsky
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To: Covenantor
More--in Arabian Gulf even.BAHRAIN! Riverine Command Boat Training in the Arabian Gulf!
51 posted on 01/17/2016 2:51:12 PM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: Taxman

Who’s going to punish it? Bambi released seven Iranians in his “prisoner exchange” who has been imprisoned for giving Iran all the stolen techno secrets it needed for missle and targeting technology. So I’d say we’re up that famous creek...


52 posted on 01/17/2016 2:54:26 PM PST by livius
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To: Taxman

In the absence of a clear distress call from the boats that loss of life was imminent, why would the U.S. call Iran for help?


53 posted on 01/17/2016 2:57:19 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

They didn’t. The boats were a means of getting a secret high value terrorist to the Iranians without being included in the public prisoner swap. What are the odds that this happens just three days before we find out that there have been secret ongoing negotiations with Iran for a prisoner swap? Where the hell is the blind sheikh?


54 posted on 01/17/2016 3:02:44 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Taxman

This subject is so much bigger than election squabbles.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT OUR SERVANTS HAVE DONE to these sailors. We need to know why they were used as pawns, why they were used as humiliating photo ops. We never made Abu Graib for our headlines. Those were made by and for a small group of bad men on our side. These humiliating photos were for the front pages and widespread dissemination by the Iranians.

And remember that scenes in Mogadishu during the Blackhawk Down incident gave Osama the motivation to attack us on our own soil because we were just a paper tiger. What will this kowtowing do to us in the future? How many innocent Americans will die because this emboldened our enemies?

Heads need to roll over this. We need to never stop firing questions about this. What the hell is going on? We need to march on DC with constitutions on sticks. This is OUR LAND and those were OUR SONS AND DAUGHTER on those boats.


55 posted on 01/17/2016 3:02:44 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: gaijin

Engine trouble? Maybe.

I think it’s more likely someone screwed up with the navigation system and put in a course too close to Farsi and the Revolutionary Guard intercepted.

With a very limited rule of engagement and being badly outgunned they surrendered.

That look on their faces looks more like a “Man, why didn’t I double check that?”


56 posted on 01/17/2016 3:04:29 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: NormsRevenge
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57 posted on 01/17/2016 3:04:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: ratzoe
My theory is he asked the Iranians for help and they agreed. It was going to be a bragging point in the SOTU address about how his diplomacy was working but the Iranians double-crossed him to use it for propaganda purposes. Another notch in the stupidity belt of the current regime.

Oooh..!!! NICE ONE..!

I must say, THAT FITS..!!

I have the feeling YOU ARE RIGHT.

58 posted on 01/17/2016 3:05:40 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

And the only other people enjoying those images as much as the mullahs IS OUR OWN NATIONAL LEADER...?????


Yes, as insane as this would sound to someone coming to the present from 100 years ago.

And here is where the two stories collide. If we had a precise definition of natural born citizenship in place, with verifiable documentation available to the People, we would never have had Historical Candidate Obama, because the only two documents he had to show he was a natural born citizen was a) a driver’s licence [probably from IL based on HI, which was so easy to get that my dad had one and he didn’t live in HI], and a US Passport made up for him as a US Senator. He used a false SS number and his Selective Service form was fraudulent.


59 posted on 01/17/2016 3:09:53 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Taxman

This is one of those situations where nothing makes sense to me.

Maybe when more is known, it will.


60 posted on 01/17/2016 3:13:32 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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