Posted on 01/17/2016 8:01:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux
Presidential candidate Donald Trump told ABC's George Stephanopoulos that he'll consider filing a lawsuit against Ted Cruz regarding his U.S. citizenship. Trump made the comments after Stephanopoulos asked whether he'd sue.
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Perhaps that was true pre-Obama.
Cruz is:
A canada citizen cause he was born in Canada.
A cuban citizen cause his dad is a Cuban.
A US citizen cause in 1934 congress passed a law allowing citizenship to be passed from mother to child.
Cruz’s US citizenship hinges on a 1934 law.
Therefore, Cruz is not a Natural Born US Citizen
I'll take someone from Alberta over someone from the Northeast any day. Alberta is more conservative than 90% of the US.
How many of you actually watched this interview?
George egged Trump and threw this at him several times and ways. Trump finally agreed that he ‘might’ look at the possibility. There’s a big difference between statements made by a candidate and gotcha questions asked by some hack.
It does need to be settled once and for all.
Only for the people living in the NY-DC cocoon, or the blind followers of the liberal media. It's working out great for those of us voters in the Heartland.
I recall telling you I thought any and all lower court would toss a Cruz eligibility case, so I'm puzzled why you keep telling me how difficult it is to get a decision out of the court. I mentioned the academic question of SCOTUS v. Congress, in case Congress approved an unqualified president-elect. I doubt SCOTUS would intervene, "impossible" is about it. Just as a matter of theory, SCOTUS might decide to step in (after all, IT is the entity who defines and applies justiciability for itself), assert that it can take the case. There is nothing Congress can do about it. Same goes for lower courts. If they decide to take a case, who is going to stop them?
Marbury v. Madison is another illustrative possibility. Court says it can't take the case, but in the process, it said clearly how it would decide the case, if it had jurisdiction.
There is a huge variety of possibility. The rules are sooooo flexible.
Seems to me the reality tv star is running circles around everyone else, republicans and dims.
No way.
I know few names in the business world except the big names. But a business women in cabinet is a definite scenario.
Also think someone who has influence not necessarily position in congress would be good. A congressman or senator from Georgia was on recently. He sure appeared to know what he was talking about. Had never seen him before but he was more involved in trying to fix problems than to get personal attention. No political adgenda visable
Whomever he chooses will be well vetted.
No standing???tee hee!
I don’t know what you find so funny with the tee hee, care to explain?
How does the US figure out if a US mother gives birth in a foreign country??
Said mother has to notify the US government and petition for citizenship under an existing naturalization law.
The US government has mechanism to record births only on US soil.
Iirc Santorum parents had not become citizens yet at the time of his birth. That is why the Republican Party must be the one to request judgment. They are the one most damaged if a decision is made after the nomination is set
I wonder if they will claim Trump has “no standing†to file suit..
I believe the “no standing” was for ordinary citizens, please correct me if I am wrong. It might be different with a suit filed by your opponent. I don’t know. I do know I would like this settled. If it blows up in Trumps face, fine with me. I do not want this to be an issue down the road. As I said before, what happens if a president elect Cruz is found ineligible? who becomes president? does the king retain his crown? I would rather find out sooner than later. The only answer I have gotten from Freerepublic is “go away Trumpette” “Cruz is a citizen”.
FYI, I plan on voting Cruz but could support Trump if he is the nominee.
1) The "natural born citizen" requirement originated in John Jay's July 25, 2787 letter to George Washington, the only historical document directly related to the natural born citizen requirement as used in the Constitution. It means "not a foreigner." Anyone born a foreign citizen/subject is ineligible, including born dual citizens (e.g., Cruz, Obama).
John Jay's letter
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2) The US State Department warns very clearly what the problems of automatically acquired dual citizenship are: owing allegiance to more than one country, legal obligation to obey both countries' laws, either country's valid legal right to enforce their laws upon their own citizens/subjects (including mandatory military service).
US State Department on problems of dual citizens
3) The Founding Fathers were well aware of the dangers of those born dual citizens. Prime example: the impressment of US citizens into service in the British Royal Navy in the late 18th and early 19th centuries.
4) The 1790 law was repealed in 1795. In the new 1795 law, the "natural born" designation was eliminated (see Sec. 3). No law since then designates those born outside the US to US citizen parents to be natural born citizens. Congress had the chance to do so in 2004, but did not.
1790 and 1795 Laws
2004 Senate bill 2128
Based upon the standard of whom am I being dishonest? Yours?
I’m pretty sure you don’t have the authority or the knowledge to make an authoritative or objective claim regarding either my honesty (which again, nice personal smear) or the stories that I’ve read being true or not.
It is public knowledge that there was a Federal HUD investigation involving Fred Trump. It’s public knowledge that he was sued for a civil rights violation in I believe it was 1973. It’s public knowledge that he was involved with a lawyer named Bunny Lindenbaum. It, I believe, is public knowledge that both were involved and a part of Tammany Hall, which at the time operated as a Democratic racketeering machine.
It’s also public knowledge that Trump himself has been sued over Trump University.
None of those things are lies. Quite frankly, since you want to blatantly accuse me of “believing everything I read” (smear #1) and being dishonest (smear #2) I can tell you I DON’T buy in to everything I read with both of them. But there’s enough there regardless for I think people to be concerned about. Or at least me.
I don’t deal in fantasy. I deal in reality, although at times, yeah I make mistakes.
I would “prefer” that Cruz had not voted for TPA initially either.
I would “prefer” that his wife not work for Goldman Sachs.
The Corker bill stuff is being taken so incredibly out of context, imo, that it’s not even funny. I don’t even know the whole story, but best as I can tell, Cruz, and Jeff Sessions, who free republic still seems to love, voted for it because they felt like it was the ONLY way they were even going to have ANY say on the Iran deal at all.
To equate that, as people in some cases here do, with Cruz being traitorous and wanting Iran to get nuclear weapons, is rather laughable, and if I can use your standard on such things, dishonest.
I prefer someone with character, maturity, obedience to God, and has a record of conservatism rather than coming on the scene and telling everyone he is when his record says otherwise.
And I’m not looking to Ted Cruz to save the country. In fact, prophetically, I think it may be too late for that.
But if I have to choose someone, whether I like everything about him or not, I’ll choose the Christian conservative over the guy who carries a bible around to his rallies to try to convince me he’s a Christian and who throws red meat out to a frustrated populace to try to convince me he’s a conservative.
You got that right.
Trump is becoming unhinged before our very eyes.
That tweet fest he did yesterday was embarrassing and almost crazed.
Maybe he would regain his sanity if he got the nomination but do we want to take that chance?
Not anymore. Not now that Cruz is picking up a little steam. Trump can’t stand that.
I’m in.
Maybe that Trump shouldn’t do a bunch of tweets featuring the words ‘loans’ ‘banks’ ‘canadian loans’ ‘canadian banks’...
If he does, Cruz or an friend should file suit right back to challenge Trump’s NBC status.
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