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To: TBBT; elcid1970; House Atreides; John Valentine; dschapin; Yosemitest; txrangerette; TexasGator; ...
I have spoken over and over about the fundamentals - that votes happen in counties and the ground workers make it happen for a candidate. I have said Cruz has the best organization on the ground that I have ever seen. They have been working daily for months there.

I have also said I do not know if Trump the celebrity, can win over a ground organization like that. If he wins Iowa, it will be the first time in modern history that celebrity wins over excellent ground organization.

What I have written above is what Erickson is talking about. He says, “I have been saying for a while that the fundamentals still matter. I think they do.” He goes on to explain the fundamentals and that is the ground game I covered above.

When Trump entered the race and for months after that, had no ground game, I thought Trump had NO chance in Iowa due to it being a caucus state which requires workers in every county. I have changed my mind about that due to the Trumpcult that has sucked in angry people. I do not know if the cult will manage to get to caucus meeting places. If Trump loses, then I will know the fundamentals DO still matter as Erickson suggests. Therefore, if Trump loses, it tells me Cruz's ground game, the fundamentals, in South Carolina has an excellent chance to deliver that state to Cruz.

Erickson thinks if Trump loses in Iowa, Trump will come verbally unglued as Howard Dean did. First, Trump has to lose. Second, no one knows what Trump will do and I doubt Trump knows, either, as he cannot vision a loss.

47 posted on 01/16/2016 10:12:59 AM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: Marcella

“I have changed my mind about that due to the Trumpcult that has sucked in angry people. “

Resorting to insults again I see. You don’t get your way so you call people names and stomp your feet.

AND ping your friends because you can’t stand alone. Who is behaving as if they are in a cult now?


69 posted on 01/16/2016 2:19:54 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Marcella
Can't argue with the first part of your post. The last part.....

I have changed my mind about that due to the Trumpcult that has sucked in angry people. I do not know if the cult will manage to get to caucus meeting places. If Trump loses, then I will know the fundamentals DO still matter as Erickson suggests. Therefore, if Trump loses, it tells me Cruz's ground game, the fundamentals, in South Carolina has an excellent chance to deliver that state to Cruz.

Erickson thinks if Trump loses in Iowa, Trump will come verbally unglued as Howard Dean did. First, Trump has to lose. Second, no one knows what Trump will do and I doubt Trump knows, either, as he cannot vision a loss.

.....seems to be a bit of a reach. It seems to assume that Cruz supporters aren't just as angry as Trump supporters - if we're not mad, we are prepared to take anything the Left hands out without resistance.

As far as Trump losing it like Howard Dean, those who believe that haven't been paying attention - everything he does has been pretty calculated and he's not some nutcase who can't see reality. Many might take comfort (would make them the nutcases) by hoping and wishing for it to be true, but they have no relevant foundation from which to make that assumption.

I've been donating to Cruz monthly, so I can't be tagged as a "Trump-bot/Trumpkin" etc., but I won't "misunderestimate" him or wish for him to self-destruct - part of my mind keeps asking how Trump or Cruz would fare in the General and, despite my preference for Cruz, I can't help but notice that Trump has a broader base of appeal.

Toss a coin and it might end up balanced on edge.

73 posted on 01/17/2016 3:35:54 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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