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Political Analyst: “Birther” Lawsuit Against Ted Cruz Won’t Impact Republican Primary
DALLAS CBS 11 ^ | 15 JANUARY 2016 | DALLAS CBS 11

Posted on 01/15/2016 6:15:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

DALLAS (CBS11) – The political question whether Texas Senator Ted Cruz can be President may now become a legal drama, too.

Houston attorney Newton Schwartz filed a federal lawsuit against Cruz asking the judge to declare the Republican presidential candidate ineligible to become President. “Just real simple. A one sentence ruling. He is eligible and is natural born citizen or he is not a natural born citizen.”

Schwartz said the Supreme Court hasn’t defined what a natural born citizen is.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: naturalborncitizen
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1 posted on 01/15/2016 6:15:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Standing issue. Will be tossed - like Obama had the ones against him tossed.

Dems will have standing though.


2 posted on 01/15/2016 6:16:50 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Newton Schwartz was disbarred retroactive to February 14,2014 for 3 years

http://www.pacourts.us/assets/opinions/DisciplinaryBoard/out/204DB2014-Schwartz.pdf

https://www.ladb.org/DR/handler.document.aspx?DocID=7798

Wondering... I don't know... But I wonder.... Is Tony Schwartz who cowrote "The art of the deal" with Trump, related to him?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000SEGE6M/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1

3 posted on 01/15/2016 6:19:02 PM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“impact” can be defined many ways...


4 posted on 01/15/2016 6:19:29 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: TigerClaws

This attorney is a Bernie Sanders supporter.

Standing has never been denied based a person’s political party. I don’t know why you think being a Dem is going to make a difference.


5 posted on 01/15/2016 6:20:34 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

A lot of Hillary supporters were among those suing over Obama eligibility.


6 posted on 01/15/2016 6:23:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Here they are head-to-head on the issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9L-prXogME

Trump gets spanked here.

It’s really not a fair fight if you compare their experience in this venue.


7 posted on 01/15/2016 6:23:29 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: TigerClaws

How so? Paula Jones was denied standing in 2000.


8 posted on 01/15/2016 6:24:52 PM PST by Perdogg (Senator Ted Cruz - President 2016)
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To: justlittleoleme

So is Mr. Schwartz able to bring a lawsuit?
Does he have standing?
I wonder who is funding him?
It is going to be fun watching a contest in making real law, and the Presidence and two or three Supreme Court Justices as the prize.TWB


9 posted on 01/15/2016 6:28:43 PM PST by TWhiteBear (i)
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To: justlittleoleme

>> Newton Schwartz was disbarred retroactive to February 14,2014 for 3 years

This debarment was in Pennsylvania. Does that have any bearing on the case filed in Texas?


10 posted on 01/15/2016 6:29:03 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I do not expect that standing can be established.


11 posted on 01/15/2016 6:29:22 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: TigerClaws
"Dems will have standing though."

Prob not in the Dem's best interest until after the convention. If Dems disqualify Cruz, support consolidates behind Trump. If they don't, Cruz can attack Trump and the Dems get to watch and see if anything sticks and if they can pick up the pieces.

12 posted on 01/15/2016 6:45:05 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: TigerClaws

“What does it mean to be a natural born citizen?

Most legal experts contend it means someone is a citizen from birth and doesn’t have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen.

If that’s the definition, then Cruz is a natural born citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth. The Congressional Research Service, the agency tasked with providing authoritative research to all members of Congress, published a report after the 2008 election supporting the thinking that “natural born” citizenship means citizenship held at birth.

There are many legal and historical precedents to strongly back up this argument, experts have said.

Those precedents were the subject of a recent op-ed in the Harvard Law Review by two former solicitor generals of opposing parties, Neal Katyal and Paul Clement, who worked for Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush, respectively. They wrote that “natural born” had a longstanding definition dating back to colonial times.

British common law recognized that children born outside of the British Empire remained subjects, and were described by law as natural born, Katyal and Clement wrote.

The framers, of course, would have been intimately familiar with these statutes and the way they used terms like natural born, since the (British) statutes were binding law in the colonies before the Revolutionary War, they said.

Additionally, the first Congress of the United States passed the Naturalization Act of 1790, just three years after the Constitution was written, which stated that children born abroad to U.S. citizens were, too, natural born citizens. Many members of the inaugural Congress were also authors of the Constitution.”


13 posted on 01/15/2016 6:46:22 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

Please be aware “natural born” and “native born” are NOT synonomous.


14 posted on 01/15/2016 6:48:22 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“The U.S. recognizes citizenship according to two fundamental principles: jus soli (right of birthplace), and jus sanguinis (right of blood). Under jus soli, a person receives American citizenship by virtue of being born in the United States. By contrast, jus sanguinis confers citizenship on those born to at least one U.S. citizen anywhere in the world. A person who does not qualify under either of these principles may seek U.S. citizenship through the process of naturalization.”


15 posted on 01/15/2016 6:50:19 PM PST by traderrob6
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The founders defined “natural born Citizen” when they passed the first law on naturalization in 1790. It was repealed in 1795, but it did define the term “natural born Citizen” and established congress as the authority to define citizenship by law.

There have been court cases, including US Supreme Court that have looked at the various laws and have also gone back as far as ancient Roman law as well as English and French law.

The few cases I have looked at confirm that the US Congress has acted well within the spirit of our Constitution and the common law it was based on.

16 posted on 01/15/2016 6:57:35 PM PST by Walt Griffith
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The lawsuit won’t. The issue already has.


17 posted on 01/15/2016 7:17:52 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: traderrob6

IRREFUTABLE AUTHORITY HAS SPOKEN
(Oct. 18, 2009) The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned that the Supreme Court of the United States has given the definition of what a ‘natural born citizen’ is. Since being a natural born citizen is an objective qualification and requirement of office for the U.S. President (and VP), it is important for all U.S. Citizens to understand what this term means.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/


18 posted on 01/15/2016 7:31:38 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Leo Carpathian

You need to analyze what is actually written there. I don’t think it says what you think it says.

BTW the US vs Wong Kim Ark comment is a dissenting opinion from the Chief Justice at the time and even if it did state what you think it states carries no legal weight whatsoever.

A case must be about what is in dispute in order to set precedent, rather than simply an opinion used to justify deciding a separate question. As it stands there are a million “comments” in thousands of decisions that are no more significant than legal footnotes.


19 posted on 01/15/2016 7:41:29 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Won't Impact Republican Primary

Of course it won't. Why would it when Republicans no longer care about the natural law or the requirements of the Constitution?

20 posted on 01/15/2016 7:44:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance ('A man without force is without the essential dignity of humanity.' - Frederick Douglass)
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