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Here's The Video Proof Trump is a Cynical Phony on 'New York Values'
Daily Wire News ^ | 01/15/2016 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/15/2016 1:13:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Gasshog
Didn't the Bible (St. Paul?) say to be all things to all men?

It didn't say be evil to fit in with evil, quite the contrary. Paul did say that the civil magistrate is God's minister to be a terror to evil and a servant for good. Good in the Bible is doing God's will as expressed in the Bible, i.e. no abortion, no homo-parades because no homos, no frivorce, limited government, no feminism, no taking others property by eminent domain, no bribing officials for favoritism, no greed, no course language or blasphemy...etc. I do not see Trump being a terror to what God calls evil and I do not see him being a servant to good. It seems he is too narcissistic with too many NY values to execute the office in the Romans 13 way.

21 posted on 01/15/2016 2:02:23 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Trump should clarify if these are his views *today*.

The interview is from 1999. Sixteen years ago. People can and do change their minds.


22 posted on 01/15/2016 2:20:29 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: kinsman redeemer
Not sure about that anymore. Cruz has been caught in more than one, um, change of mind.

Don't know what he stands for anymore.

23 posted on 01/15/2016 2:23:02 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The 9-11 attacks two years after Trump gave this interview changed a lot of things. Most people have different views when in the role of the one who is responsible rather than a mere Monday morning quarterback who bears no burden of responsibility.

Trump the business mogul sounding off on social issues in a pre 9-11 world is a different man than Trump the candidate who is likely to be the leader of a crippled nation during dangerous times.

Seventeen years ago I was a different man. Deployment during OIF and two kids changed me.

Cruz and his New York values comment would play very differently in a pre 9-11 world, before the Obama disaster that this nation inflicted on itself twice.

Obama has opened more than a few eyes to the folly of “liberal enlightenment”. If some of the liberal leanings of many Americans haven’t withered during these two disastrous Obama terms we are finished.

If Trump has changed his views, I pray he has lots of company and that veteran conservatives aren’t too pig headed to accept the newly awakened to our ranks.

We will need every single willing hand to pull together to help save our country and to make America great again.


24 posted on 01/15/2016 2:36:16 PM PST by M1911A1 (My red line is Jeb Bush.)
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To: M1911A1

Trump is attacking a strawman as last night’s debate shows.

When Trump went on about Firefighters, Policemen and First responders, etc. during 9/11, you could clearly see from the video that Cruz was LITERALLY applauding them.

It is obvious that Cruz was not referring to these heroes.

He was referring to something else when he mentioned “New York Values”. These are LIBERAL POLITICIANS who are pro-choice, pro-gay marriage and pro-gun control. HE SAID SO.

Alas, these would include MANY Republicans in the state.


25 posted on 01/15/2016 2:43:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: sauropod; kinsman redeemer

RE: Don’t know what he stands for anymore.

Well, if change of mind is going to be criteria for voting for someone, we should all worry about all other leading candidates as well — they would include BOTH Trump and Rubio.


26 posted on 01/15/2016 2:46:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“So I guess Trump saying Iowans are stupid was uniting?”

You have that 180 degrees wrong. Trump was actually saying that anyone that thought Iowans were stupid enough buy Carson’s knife story were stupid. Read it in context.


27 posted on 01/15/2016 2:46:34 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well done!


28 posted on 01/15/2016 2:47:14 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: entropy12

Hard to argue with that!


29 posted on 01/15/2016 2:47:26 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: DaveyB
Sorry - his NYC values are a no go for most of the country.

In Trump's case, they're not even good enough to win New York.

A Trump nomination means a democrat president.

That rings true even if Trump should somehow win.

30 posted on 01/15/2016 2:51:02 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: kinsman redeemer
Trump tried to connect Cruz’s accusation (that Trump is not a true conservative) with 9-11. That was a very sentimental tactic but it had nothing to do with the fact that Trump can’t be counted as a true conservative. Cruz can.

Trump is politicizing 9/11 to score political points. That is shameful.

31 posted on 01/15/2016 2:56:46 PM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: SeekAndFind

Fair enough. I’m just doing my homework.


32 posted on 01/15/2016 3:06:40 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: CrosscutSaw

You can go *entertain* yourself. There was no politicizing here. Trump is a New Yorker. He saw in real time a lot of what we saw on TV.


33 posted on 01/15/2016 3:11:27 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: CrosscutSaw
Trump is politicizing 9/11 to score political points. That is shameful.

It was a straw man argument. Ubama is better at using straw man arguments than that.

34 posted on 01/15/2016 3:44:48 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: longfellow

If IRS is abolished, who will collect alternate taxes?
I guess we all will be on honor system? I will drink to that hahahahaha..

So ridiculous to wish IRS will be abolished. Their function could change, but IRS will be just as ruthless in collecting every dime owed, else they can freeze your bank account just as they can now.


35 posted on 01/15/2016 4:35:37 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz is 100% eligible as a natural born Canada citizen!!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Digging up a 16 year old interview is the best they have?
HAHAHAHA...they are horribly desperate!


36 posted on 01/15/2016 4:37:19 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz is 100% eligible as a natural born Canada citizen!!)
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To: entropy12

That is THE INTERVIEW, the specific interview that Cruz referred to in the debate. Those are the New York values he was referring to. Yet Trump dishonestly makes it about the nearly as old 9/11 event. Trump is showing his con man side.


37 posted on 01/15/2016 6:22:26 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

So why is Rafael Cruz apologizing now?????
Breaking....

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/688136330535018497


38 posted on 01/15/2016 6:36:49 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz is 100% eligible to run in Canada as a natural born Canada citizen!!)
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To: entropy12

It will be taken electronically. Straight out of your paycheck.


39 posted on 01/15/2016 6:38:18 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

I do not get a paycheck. I work in the underground economy.


40 posted on 01/15/2016 6:39:07 PM PST by entropy12 (Rafael Cruz is 100% eligible to run in Canada as a natural born Canada citizen!!)
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