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Houston attorney asks Supreme Court to rule Ted Cruz ineligible for presidency
The Dallas Morning News ^ | January 15, 2016 | Bobby Blanchard

Posted on 01/15/2016 10:55:31 AM PST by justlittleoleme

Sen. Ted Cruz might finally get the chance to prove he is eligible to run for president once and for all.

A Houston-based attorney has filed a lawsuit against Cruz, asking the U.S. Supreme Court to settle whether Canadian-born Cruz is eligible for the presidency. Noting that the Iowa caucuses are just weeks away, the attorney asks the court to expedite the case as quickly as possible.

"This 229 year question has never been pled, presented to or finally decided by or resolved by the U. S. Supreme Court," wrote attorney Newton Schwartz in his lawsuit that he filed Thursday. "Only the U.S. Supreme Court can finally decide, determine judicially and settle this issue now."

He writes: "It is undisputed, by all legal scholars, there is no U.S. Supreme Court decision or precedent: determinative of the following agreed facts of this case and controversy. 'Natural born citizen' has never been defined."

Schwartz asked the court to rule that Cruz is not eligible to run for President.

The Cruz campaign declined to comment on the suit, but said Cruz has no connection Schwartz.

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; canadian; cruz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; seeyouincourtted; trump
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To: RginTN
The law is there for you to read. Look it up yourself. Cruz is a nbc. To say otherwise is leftwing silliness.

I'll ask the question I asked above to another, which has so far gone unanswered. The U.S. Supreme Court, in its landmark case on citizenship and the Constitution, stated:

"Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts." U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 696, 702, 703 (1898).

In your view, are Supreme Court cases part of the "law" which is available to be read? If so, then if foreign-born children can only become citizens by being naturalized via statute, how is it that they are also "natural born citizens?"

I'm not quite seeing how an argument based in part on a 100+ year old case is dismissed as "leftwing silliness."

Can you reconcile your view that Cruz is NBC with this statement of the SCOTUS?

141 posted on 01/15/2016 1:27:24 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: GrouchoTex
Two other Harvard Lawyers on the Harvard Law Board said that Cruz is eligible.

It really doesn't matter what all the Harvard Lawyers think or what anyone else thinks, it only matters because we allowed a non NBC person to ascend to the office of President.

Before the current President made NBC an issue you could ask anyone educated in the US what NBC meant and they would have told you Born in USA of two citizen parents, now because we let the democrats stick it too us we are more than willing to sock it to them calling goose and gander logic.

The whole issue makes me sick but in the end it will only be solved by a Supreme Court Definition of NBC which will likely force all o us to become Citizens of the World, won't that be peachy.

My opinion Cruz, Rubio, Jindal and Obama are all not qualified because none are NBC. In the end it won't matter for another 8 years because none of these three Republicans will be the nominee, the Court will not intervene and this argument will resume next election.

142 posted on 01/15/2016 1:44:21 PM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: vette6387

Well you don’t have to be a lawyer to bring suit against someone, so doubt his disbarment matters.


143 posted on 01/15/2016 1:47:00 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: CpnHook

Does not apply to Cruz as his mother is a US citizen.


144 posted on 01/15/2016 1:59:52 PM PST by RginTN
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To: justlittleoleme

The supremes will not rule in time. The purpose is to inject doubt in the minds of voters. Just enough to sway the election.


145 posted on 01/15/2016 2:03:15 PM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: RginTN

But was she a US citizen when she was living in Canada and voting in Canada and gave birth in Canada ?


146 posted on 01/15/2016 2:30:18 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

>>>Yep, Trump and Grayson are in cahoots<<<

Sure they are. LOL

(Tagline)


147 posted on 01/15/2016 2:32:27 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: RginTN
Does not apply to Cruz as his mother is a US citizen.

The SCOTUS refers to Congressional acts "conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens," and you say the Court's statement doesn't apply be Cruz is a child of a citizen??

I don't think you read the passage I quoted. It says foreign-born children of U.S. citizens who are made citizens at birth by statute are naturalized citizens. That's a problem for your "he was a citizen at birth, therefore he's NBC" position.

148 posted on 01/15/2016 2:37:58 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: RginTN
The law is there for you to read. Look it up yourself. Cruz is a nbc. To say otherwise is leftwing silliness.

You are just plain deluded and I could care less what law you drag up. Laws do not amend the Constitution.

I sor of promised this so move along.
Holding my tongue until
after Iowa-New Hampshire

149 posted on 01/15/2016 2:42:02 PM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: RginTN

Well then, there’s your proof (/s).

So far as this NBC/Cruz stuff, any “real” conservative would shut their mouth, put their hands over their ears, and close their eyes. Just the act of being curious about anything re NBC/Cruz proves one is not a real deal conservative. Real conservatives know that not thinking about it would have eliminated the issue. So there. (again.../s)


150 posted on 01/15/2016 3:09:50 PM PST by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Sweet Saint Skittles bounced dat ole white Craka head off da sidewalk causin he was real skeered.)
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To: dware

Cruz has been avoiding criticizing Trump, hoping to pick up his followers if Trump falls apart.

Trump couldn’t give a hoot about anyone else in the field.

That’s not what I would call an alliance.


151 posted on 01/15/2016 4:18:15 PM PST by sakic
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To: itsahoot; CpnHook; PraiseTheLord

Entertain yourselves with leftwing birther fantasy. The law is what is , if a US citizen gives birth overseas then that child is a natural born citizen.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/08/ted-cruz-mother-birth-certificate/

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152 posted on 01/15/2016 4:19:06 PM PST by RginTN
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To: RginTN

I’ll give you she was born in the US.

But what was she doing *voting* in Canada ? [ I heard someone say ]


153 posted on 01/15/2016 4:24:23 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: RginTN
The law is what is , if a US citizen gives birth overseas then that child is a natural born citizen.

Citizen ≠ Natural Born Citizen. Get over it.

154 posted on 01/15/2016 6:10:12 PM PST by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. Wonder why is he winning?)
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To: RginTN; itsahoot; PraiseTheLord
The law is what is , if a US citizen gives birth overseas then that child is a natural born citizen.

The U.S. Supreme Court disagrees with you such is the law:

"Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts." U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 696, 702, 703 (1898).

Showing me that Cruz's mother was a citizen doesn't solve your problem when the SCOTUS has stated that even when a person (like Ted Cruz) is born outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. (like in Canada) to a U.S. citizen parent (like Eleanor Darragh) such child is a citizen only by way of naturalization (like the statute by which Cruz was a citizen at birth).

155 posted on 01/15/2016 6:15:51 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: sakic

Then you have no idea what political warfare is.


156 posted on 01/15/2016 6:42:47 PM PST by dware (Everybody wants to be a patriot, until it's time to do patriot stuff.)
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To: PraiseTheLord

I’ll give you she was born in the US.

But what was she doing *voting* in Canada ? [ I heard someone say ]


you heard....such a serious post you have there.

got any proof of that? no? then ignore rumors spread by lefties


157 posted on 01/15/2016 8:52:56 PM PST by RginTN
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To: CpnHook; itsahoot

by authority of Congress


Categories of Citizens: Birth and Naturalization

Sec. 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952

(2) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe,
(3) a person born outside the United States of citizen parents one of whom has been resident in the United States,
(4) a person born outside the United States of one citizen parent who has been continuously resident in the United States for one year prior to the birth and of a parent who is a national but not a citizen,
(5) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of one citizen parent who has been continuously resident in the United States or an outlying possession for one year prior to the birth,
(6) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five unless prior to his twenty–first birthday he is shown not to have been born in the United States, and
(7) a person born outside the United States of an alien parent and a citizen parent who has been resident in the United States for a period of ten years, provided the person is to lose his citizenship unless he resides continuously in the United States for a period of five years between his fourteenth and twenty–eighth birthdays.


now go get obsessed by some other conspiracy invented by a lefty


158 posted on 01/15/2016 9:11:12 PM PST by RginTN
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To: RginTN
And your point in posting the legislation is what exactly? That's an example of an act of Congress making a citizen of a child born abroad to a citizen parent which the Supreme Court says naturalizes a person born out of the jurisdiction of the U.S. Cruz was a citizen at birth by operation of such a statute. The SCOTUS says he thus was a naturalized citizen.

You've now posted something about Cruz's mother. And something about the legislation. Do you want to complete the Triple Play of things that don't change my point by posting how he was born in Canada? Or do you just want to stick to ad hominem this time?

But refute my point you have not.

159 posted on 01/15/2016 9:35:32 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook

show a trumpster the law and the trumpster ignores it.


160 posted on 01/15/2016 9:46:18 PM PST by RginTN
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