Posted on 01/14/2016 2:42:32 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Another round of eagerly awaited GOP debates will take place live January 14 at the North Charleston Coliseum and Performing Arts Center in North Charleston, South Carolina, airing on the FOX Business Network and streaming live on FOXBusiness.com.
The first debate, scheduled for a 6 p.m. ET start will be moderated by anchors Trish Regan and Sandra Smith. Four GOP candidates will be featured, including former HP (HPQ) CEO Carly Fiorina, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum.
The second debate, which is slated for a 9 p.m. ET start, will be moderated by Anchor/Managing Editor of Business News, Neil Cavuto and Anchor/Global Markets Editor Maria Bartiromo. Candidates at the podium for the later debate will be: real estate mogul Donald Trump, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Ohio Governor John Kasich and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.
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I agree.. but but but....will they vote for Trump?
It was just a reference point to the 70s when I grew up and computer programming was new
And I was too lazy honestly to pay much attention
Almost seems like common sense to me. You guys seem to get it and so do apparently a lot of folks from all over.
Whoa... great my post, My Friend.
Cruz is a dangerous debater. He’s won numerous contest in Ivy League match ups. He’s the best. His mind is like a computer. One on one with a guy in his 70s and no debater is like an adult arm wrestling a child...
Last night Cruz, was getting in some solid shots on Trump...I mean scoring points, and not backing down. Giving us some memorable quips, like “I’m not going to take legal advice from Donald Trump.”
Then he moves in for the kill on the question of New York values. He starts clean, with NY is a liberal state, pro abortion, gay rights etc....Everyone in the room nods their head, and they understand...but
He keeps talking... and then ends it with being two cute by half...
and says:
“I don’t see too many conservatives coming out of Manhatten.”
Trump who is waiting to be saved by the bell sees an opening and slams a solid right to Cruz’s mid section with:
“Bill Buckley was from Manhatten.”
Then a right and left combination as he talks from the heart about 911 and the values New Yorkers had during that time when they could smell death every day...Even Cruz applauds...
In short, Trump wins the round and the match by a close decision.
I don’t know. I’m not all that impressed with Cruz as “Mr. Debater”. When I think of Gingrich in 2012, he seemed to speak genuinely from his heart and his insights and comments were surgically precise in hitting the mark. Gingrich was one of the best debaters I’ve seen come down the pike.
Cruz seems too polished and rehearsed to me. I really think people are looking for unpolished genuineness like what you get from Trump.
Also, I’m intrigued that in his response to Rubio’s fast litany of charges against Cruz’s Senate record, Cruz said “half” of what Rubio said was false. Which half and what about the other half? I’ve begun to wonder how genuine Cruz actually is - guess I’ll have to do some digging about Cruz’s actual voting record.
Trump is quick on his feet. It’s like he has a database in his hard-drive brain. When Cruz hit him with conservatives not coming out of Manhattan, Trump’s brain ran a quick query and out poped William F. Buckley. Love it!
did you read my 4004? I think we may have posted at the same time with the same thought!!!
Cruz is playing with fire, and he is lying about the issue being settled in his favor.
Conclusion:.....Cruz is a liar.
This could very well cost Ted Iowa
This thread only got 4,000 hits ? Whassa matta you epopel ?
LOL
Two of the people were from New Jersey, another one from New York via Florida, another one from Penn. They all moved here to SC. We ourselves have moved here from CA. The rest were southerners.
We did not get into who will you vote for, but I have to say they were paying attention to the debate last night with an intensity I have not seen in years. Lots of interesting comments.
KNOCK-OUT!
Yes; I read your 4004. Actually, my post was a reply to your post! (”Great minds”...)
Cruz is as solid as it gets, I’d vote for him ithout hesitatuion in the general election. But he has that special “smartest kid in the sixth grade” quality that just alienates people. Good guy, better than most, but a poor presentation.
Cruz, along with most of the rest of the GOP field, will probably be on the short end of a 400 electoral vote landslide on election night.
Trump is the only one with a small chance of beating the democrat nominee, seems to me.
Trump can be proud of his cring-worthy moment, waving the bloody shirt.
At least now everyone in IA and the south knows that he has New York values.
Actually, other than at the very end, I thought he did pretty well... but I also think the debate as a WHOLE was a lot better, it was handled by the moderators better, questions were relevant and not gotchas and a lot of topics got covered.. and a lot of the white noise folks weren’t on the stage so better overall discussions.
Rubio IMHO looked bad, especially when he stammered through his clearly precanned response to a criticism.
Christie again showed he has an X factor and his line about Obama being a petulant child was for me the best line of the night.
I don’t think the debate fundamentally changed anything, no one had any knock out blows.... Rubio may pay a price, Jeb & Christie might get a slight bounce. Carson held steady, didn’t impress, but didn’t look like a fish out of water as he has in past debates.
However, all in all the race will remain Trump by a country mile.
I think the whole New York Values thing was a win for both the folks involved. Cruz will gain points in fly over country and IOWA where he desperately needs them and Trump with how he responded to it, which is genious in a way just turned a vote for him into a vote for NY in the General election. NY folks might be mad at Cruz, but Cruz has no chance at NY in a general election, but desperately needs support outside it to keep his hopes alive in the primary, so a very solid calculated move, and might sow doubt about Trump in Iowa and fly over country where they know what “New York Values” means... Trump played it well and if NY wasn’t in play in the general for him before, almost certainly will now. Not to mention solidifies him winning the NY primary, which he probably would have done anyway.
There was a brilliance to Trump’s handling of this, and no less a calculated intelligence to Cruz’s handling of it as well. Press and pundits will make hay about this whole exchange, but in the end its a win win for both guys. Cruz sows doubt in fly over about Trump, Trump turns voting for him into a vote for NY. I have to believe this was cool and calculated by both of these guys, and politically I see this as genius.
If Cruz and Trump are neck and neck in Iowa, this might help Cruz win there, which he absolutely needs to do if he wants to try to have any attempt at changing the dynamic of the race... I don’t personally think winning Iowa for Cruz will change the end game of Trump pretty much running the table, but without an Iowa win there is no chance at all that the end game could change.
So, it’s ok for Trump to insult an entire sect (like his thing about Muslims - even though he was mostly correct, to include them ALL, he still insulted them) and he doesn’t care, and HE gets away with it. Cruz makes a very valid comment about the fact that NY is a socially liberal, pro-choice, pro-homosexual, anti-christian place, that is well known for that, and that Trump embodies those values, and he is being lambasted. Cruz is correct. Is EVERY NYer that way, NO. But the majority are. Just because Cruz doesn’t LIVE in NY, he has the right to speak about someone elses values.
It’s obvious Trump is NOT a conservative, especially with the media propping him up, giving him SO much attention, it reminds me of someone else SO MUCH, that got so much attention and a pass on everything.....still to this day....
IMHO Cruz can’t win a General election, could I live with him as president? Sure... but I look at the EC map, and I don’t see him able to pull off a win. I believe he can preach to the Choir, but I don’t see him getting the swing votes needed to change the map. Larger margin wins in already red states... FL and OH likely flip... but then what?
VA??? Maybe, then at least one more? which one? and if no VA, you have to take nearly every other swing state, and I just don’t see it happening.
Hillary can’t win by convincing folks to vote for her, she has to have someone to convince folks to vote against.. and Cruz is the perfect boogie man for that as far as I am concerned.
I see the same general election EC map problem for all the candidates except for Trump... he is the only one who cracks open the Democratic firewall, and puts the upper midwest, mid atlantic and even some of the north east into play. Trump cracks the map wide open, no one else can or will do that.
I agree. The liberals have all the answers, but Trump suddenly changes the questions. It’s not a sure thing - I honestly expect the democrat to win in 2016 no matter what. But Trump does kick over the apple cart and changes things.
Odds are it is still not enough, but if Trump gets 230 electoral votes, most of the rest will get 130 and will be bleeding from every orifice by 9:35pm eastern time on election night.
Go with the only play we have. That’s Trump. Is he conservative? No. Is he conservative enough? Maybe. The rest either aren’t conservative enough or have no chance in the general election. Roll the dice. Nothing to lose at this point.
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