[Behind the Blue Wall]

Nobody knows for a fact that he was a U.S. citizen from the “time he left his mother’s womb”. That doesn’t happen automatically, and we’ve yet to see the documentation that it did.

[KGeorge]

How many days has it been? (I honestly don’t know) It’s pretty obvious that such documentation will not be forthcoming- either because it isn’t possible or out of stubbornness.

The correlations between Ted Cruz and Barack 0bama grow clearer by the day.

[Carl Vehse]

Behind the Blue Wall @6: Nobody knows for a fact that he was a U.S. citizen from the "time he left his mother's womb".

Well, yes we do. That's what "natural born" means: from the time a person leaves his mother's womb and is born.

That doesn't happen automatically, and we've yet to see the documentation that it did.

Well, yes we have, as well as the birth certificate of his mother.

[jpsb]

THE "CITIZENSHIP ACT OF 1934": On 24 May, Congress makes a major change to the "citizenship law" to now enable U.S. citizen mothers to also transmit U.S. citizenship at birth abroad. But for the first time the law now also creates a new burden by imposing a mandatory "subsequent five year residence requirement" in the United States, prior to reaching age eighteen, and an "oath of allegiance requirement" within six months of the child's twenty-first birthday, for any child born abroad to parents, one of whom is an alien. The new law states

Actual Text from 1934

Any child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States: but the rights of citizenship shall not descend to any such child unless the citizen father or citizen mother, as the case may be, has resided in the United States previous to the birth of such child. In cases where one of the parents is an alien, the right of citizenship shall not descend unless the child comes to the United States and resides therein for at least five years continuously immediately previous to his eighteenth birthday, and unless, within six months after the child's twenty-first birthday, he or she shall take an oath of allegiance to the United States of America as prescribed by the Bureau of Naturalization." (Section 1, 48 Stat. 797.)

The "naturalization act" of 1934 makes Ted Cruz a US Citizen by birth, however the son of a Cuban, born in Canada to an American mother is no way, no how, a natural born citizen of the United States. Cruz is a naturalized US citizen, naturalized a birth by the 1934 legislation and follow up legislation.

[Cboldt]

I take as an article of informed faith that Cruz has a CRBA. He'll produce it.

That will fuel another round of emotion-fueled debate.

If Cruz is the nominee, the DEMs will sue on the issue.

[Boogieman]

“That doesn’t happen automatically...”

Actually, it does. You might need to register a birth so that the government is informed that a citizen was born abroad, but that is just a formality. You don’t suddenly become a citizen when the paperwork was filed, you are a citizen by virtue of your birth, whether or not the government has been notified yet.

[Cold Heat]

Nobody knows for a fact that he was a U.S. citizen from the “time he left his mother’s womb”. That doesn’t happen automatically, and we’ve yet to see the documentation that it did.

From a citizenship standpoint, it is automatic. There are no supporting documents required.

The argument is not about that. The argument is about whether Cruz inherited his mother's natural born status as well as citizenship.

I am one who sides with the understanding that it did.