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Posted on 01/13/2016 12:36:23 PM PST by don-o
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Which correlated with a large voter turn out for Obama. Expect the same for Trump. It's pretty hilarious watching all the Trump haters reach so deep to find some shred of hope, and they come up with: Trump might have the largest crowds by far, but they won't got to the polls to vote.
Hah! Since Trump knows heâs a conman, and thinks Reagan was a conman, he thinks heâs just like Reagan.
Funny and true.
I pointed out two significant ways it is similar.
I don’t find your point useful or significant but you’re welcome to it.
Your remark did make me think of Edwin Meese, Michael Deaver, Lyn Nofziger- and later Lee Atwater.
Today’s political operatives seem tame and superfluous.
And yet he is worshipped by Rush, Mark Levin, and many others.
If you expect to be President, you must live in the world of what's politically achievable at the moment.
If Trump should get the nod, he will never make lofty and poetic speeches like Reagan did. But that's not necessarily bad. Trump has his own way. He's a businessman staying true to himself. Trying to act the part of a "statesman", he would lose some of his credibility, I think.
More than anything, Trump is a strong and nurturing Dad. And if a Dad raises a good for a family, perhaps he would also be good for raising a nation.
Trump will be BETTER than Reagan. Reagan listened to the Kennedy/Carter dominated courts. Reagan also started this whole Amnesty concept.
The man went through a string of women and was divorced before he met Nancy. (More than 50 women definitely puts him in the 'slut' category.)
The only person making that claim was a guy named Darwin Porter, a "celebrity biographer" whose work is so bad and unreliable that it is considered by most to be fiction. He has slimed a lot of other public figures as well. It figures a Trumpette would find him credible...
He was a major proponent of gay rights, spent a ton of government money on AIDS research, and preached tolerance for the homosexual lifestyle. He taught his own children that homosexuality was normal and had close homosexual and lesbian friends. For the Religious Right, all of this is sacrilege.
He was hardly a "major proponent" of homosexual rights, but he did have homosexual friends from Hollywood, and did believe in treating people with dignity and respect (something Trump clearly knows nothing about). As far as the funding for AIDS research, you may not be old enough to remember, but there was a time in the 80's when AIDS began to make inroads into to heterosexual community. So finding a treatment or cure affected a lot more than just homosexuals.
He was a 'big government' conservative - mostly military - and expanded government spending by almost 200%. (We all agree that this is nothing compared to Obama, but - at the time - these numbers were historic.)
Now you are just delusional. Yes, Reagan spent a lot on the military - after Vietnam and the Carter years, the military was decimated! Reagan increased almost doubled military spending over the course of 8 years - and even that really wasn't enough. But that is an increase of 100%, not 200%. And he managed to win the Cold War. To me, that would have been worth spending twice as much!
He was *not* an isolationist as far as the world stage went and build the US up to be the world's greatest superpower.
You have a problem with the US being the world's greatest superpower???
Iran Contra... Remember that? That disaster was as bad (if not worse) than Fast and Furious.
I remember it quite well - and the fact that you are comparing it to Fast and Furious tells me that you know nothing about it. It was not the smartest decision he ever made, but it was a part of the effort to defeat Communism in the Americas. Fast and Furious was mostly about trying to create support for taking away our 2nd Amendment rights.
He actually DID grant amnesty to the millions of illegal immigrants who were currently residing in the US. In today's political climate, this is heresy.
The reason it is heresy today is because we saw what happened the last time when Reagan did it. Reagan made a deal with Congress - agree to a one-time amnesty in exchange for improved border security and enforcement as well as sanctions on those who employ illegals. As we now know, once they got the amnesty through, the Dems made it impossible for the enforcement and security provision to be implemented. That is why conservatives today are so opposed to any kind of amnesty, and oppose any other reforms before border security and enforcement of existing laws. But Reagan did not have the benefit we have of seeing what would happen.
He supported the Brady Bill and gun control.
I disagreed with him on this, but since he was almost assassinated, I am prepared to give him some grace on this topic. But Trump was in favor of an assault weapons ban, longer waiting periods, etc.
Cruz will spend his entire presidency fighting with a recalcitrant Congress.
And you think Trump won't??
In many ways, Trump is more Reagan than Cruz will ever be. If you say that Trump is not a conservative, then you have to deny Reagan.
Sorry, no. Trump is NOT a conservative - he is a populist that happens to have latched onto some issues that conservatives care about right now. Even Trump has described himself in the fairly recent past as liberal on some issues, and as identifying more with Democrats than with Republicans.
Just keep in mind that our nation is desperate for a powerful leader who's all action and less talk. We need a hard kickstart and Cruz will NOT be able to give us that.
If Trump is elected, I think the one benefit we will see is Congress taking back all of the power that the Presidency has arrogated to itself over the past couple of decades. According to the Constitution, Congress is the First Branch of government and has the most power because they are the most accountable to the People. They have allowed the Executive to take more and more of of that power over the years. Primarily that has been to insulate themselves from having to make hard choices and to help insure their own re-election. But if Trump is president, I think they will reassert their position in a big way, and that would be good for the country in the long run.
“As far as the funding for AIDS research, you may not be old enough to remember, but there was a time in the 80’s when AIDS began to make inroads into to heterosexual community. So finding a treatment or cure affected a lot more than just homosexuals.”
Might you have a link to that. I lived through the 80s and followed AIDS VERY CLOSELY. All that I can remember were PROMISES that it would move into the straight community. Back then you were safe if you were straight, didn’t have blood transfusions, didn’t share (drug) needles, and were not Haitian (for whatever reason). If you met that, then it took an accident (needle prick) to get it.
I lived through the 80's as well. When AIDS started spreading through the drug community, and then through blood transfusions, it stopped being a purely "gay" disease in the minds of most of the public. Then they discovered it could be transmitted from mother to child during birth, and some cases of heterosexual transmission showed up. It never reached the same stage in the hetero population here as it did over in Africa, but it was a serious concern.
I agree, that’s what happened and CA in Ground Zero. What got me mad about that particular topic was that it was obvious that scare tactics were being used. I still remember at work, in 1991 (when a lot more was known), I said to babe at work that people that were not in the high-risk groups we identified basically didn’t have to worry about AIDS and scare tactics had been used to get funding. Man did she go off...never did apologize though, she still thought we were all doomed.
By the way, your answers are really good. I’ll add a bit here for you regarding Reagan:
On the military, Reagan actually spent LESS than Carter had proposed before leaving office, as Carter had greatly jacked up his proposed spending (in desperation, of course). Carter even noted that much later. Much, maybe all, of Reagan’s reductions were possible to the much lower inflation rate that took hold. Reagan also did spend a lot more on social programs, but he simply had NO CHOICE - it was all or nothing from the rock-solid Democrat House. You want YOUR military spending, we get our social spending. Reagan, of course, put the country’s security first.
Iran Contra ONLY existed because of the Boland Amendment, which PROHIBITED Reagan from helping governments in Central America defend themselves from Cuban/Soviet takeovers, and to aid rebels trying to overthrow Communist governments there. Reagan went around it, got caught, and nearly got impeached (and Bush too had huge trouble with Iran Contra). The DEMOCRATS forced that law on Reagan - to this day, as bad as Obama is, the Dems back then were just as bad.
I remember well the border security provisions in exchange for Amnesty. The border was to be AIR TIGHT. Reagan later admitted that signing the Amnesty bill was his biggest mistake he made as President.
I never knew he supported the Brady bill, but as it was, he was only 3 years away from announcing his Alzheimer’s so it wouldn’t surprise me if he were getting “Goldwater’d” by young, sweet, babes then.
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