Posted on 01/09/2016 4:16:21 PM PST by VinL
Donald Trump intensified his criticism of Ted Cruz at two Iowa campaign rallies on Saturday, urging voters to reject the Texas senator by saying his Canadian birth raises serious questions about his eligibility to become president.
"He was born in Canada. I guess his parents voted in Canada," Trump said at an afternoon rally in Clear Lake. "So if you were born in Canada, immediately it's a little bit of a problem."
Trump added: "You cannot put somebody there that's gonna go in ... he's going to be immediately sued."
Earlier Saturday, Trump said at a rally in Ottumwa that Cruz "has to straighten out his problems," a veiled reference to the so-called "birther" issue. But he declined to elaborate further, saying, "We'll discuss that later."
Cruz, however, is a naturally-born U.S. citizen, and most legal experts agree that he is qualified to be commander-in-chief.
But recently, he has had to aggressively push back on questions pushed from Trump about his eligibility for the presidency. He renounced his dual Canadian citizenship in 2014, and on Friday, Cruz's campaign shared with the conservative website Breitbart a copy of his mother's birth certificate showing her born in the United States.
I have said NO such thing. You really need to learn to read, or failing that, at least not to lie.
Actually I have said just the opposite. OUR law supersedes any foreign law. For Cruz as well as for Trump. You can't demean Cruz's citizenship by birth on the basis that Canada also extended him citizenship any more than you can demean Trump's citizenship by birth on the basis that Great Britain extends him British nationality. You can't have it both ways, and that is my point. The Trump die-hards need to stop acting like self-enforced idiots.They also need to stop lying at every opportunity. For one thing, it's immoral. For another, it's not working.
Now, and finally, I just want to make the point that although Canada recognizes the Queen as sovereign, Canada is NOT part of Great Britain in any way shape or form. Canada is not bound by the laws of Great Britain, and it is NOT a "dominion" of Great Britain, any more than Great Britain is a "dominion" of Canada. Please, crack a book once in a while.
...and? Your point, please?
Okay...shall read some. :-)
Many.
Joe, here is your post 183:
“Nope. You’d better check British nationality laws. Being born in Canada to American parents does not concerned British nationality to anyone.”
Exactly, Joe. Just like a British national becoming a naturalized American citizen has nothing to do with British nationality laws.
Get it?
Trump’s mother is no longer a British national because Britain says so. Her renunciation supercedes British law, because it is an affirmative oath, not taken under duress.
Trump’s mother became an American citizen on March 10, 1942. In the eyes of SETTLED AMERICAN LAW, she is an American citizen and is recognized as one, lee-gull-ly.
For you or John to claim otherwise is to denigrate the efficacy of Cruz’s denunciation of his Canadian citizenship, as you are saying denunciation (of Trump’s mother) is of no effect, and Britain has a claim on all under their domain unless they denounce it with the British Home Secretary.
Canada is still a Dominion of Canada, which claims allegiance to the Queen of England. If Britain can reach over the sea to claim Trump’s mother, it can do so with Cruz.
And after her naturalization as an American, Trump’s mother’s BC is irrelevant.
What a load of mixed feces. This is so stupid , so confused, so twisted and wrong that it defies comment.
But, but the far left crazies like Alan Grayson may not be satisfied with that. There are still questions. She was born in Scotland so remains British all her life. Trump needs to go to court to “clarify” things. I am very using Trump's own bizarre arguments against him here.
By your logic, since Canada is a dominion of Great Britain, then Cruz still has a claim of Britain on him.
You don't have a clue what British citizenship laws are do you?
I do. Lived in London for several years. Two of my children were born in London. You have no idea what the heck you are taking abouzt.
Ok, so I don’t get it. Cruz, the son of two non-Canadian citizens, is a natural born Canadian because he was born there, BUT...
Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal, sons of two non-Americans, are NOT natural born Americans even though they were born here. How the hell does that work?
I swear, birthers are dumber than liberals.
There are TWO kinds of citizenship:
Conferred at birth - natural born
Conferred after birth - naturalized
No need to confuse the issue.
Todays birthers are a breed apart: stupid and proud of it.
No I’m sorry you are the one confused.
Find another book. Three are not enough.
“...and? Your point, please?”
It corrects the omission which creates a false impression, false narrative, and perhaps some false conclusions. It also illustrates the fact we cannot entirely exclude the possibility of one or both parents acquiring Canadian citizenship by the time of the birth of Ted Cruz, if the timeline we’ve been given is somehow incorrect. Under Canadian law, Ted Cruz could not have been born with Canadian citizenship without one or both of his parents being (1) a Canadian citizen or (2) a Canadian Permanent Resident in waiting to become a Canadian citizen. We know Rafael Cruz became a Canadian citizen by naturalization by the time he and the family moved back into the United States in what has been reported to be in 1974. If the mother changed status before or after the birth of Ted Cruz, such a fact would invalidate many narratives and lead to further problems with the truth or falsity of much of the narrative being given to the public.
Is Donald Trump’s mother an American citizen under American law,having been naturalized, or is she still a British national, having publicly renounced all claims to other countries’ claims upon her?
If you say both, because of British law, then she could never have escaped a claim of dual citizenship.
If that is true, then how can claim Cruz simply renounce his Canadian citizenship and it is OK? It cannot be challenged.
There is no question about Trump’s NBC status.
It is quite a simple matter really.
By the way, speaking of books, buy yourself a dictionary and learn how to spell.
Under the old USSR, if any male with Russian heritage, but was a citizen of America, or France, or England, etc. was caught in the USSR, they could and would be conscripted into the USSR's military.
Even American Jews have to ASK FOR dual citizenship, in Israel; they aren't automatically given it.
Yeah he’s such a bad guy.
Get it?
Trump's mother was born British to British parents. Ergo, she confers her British citizenship to any progeny of hers including Donald Trump.
Now this is not something I normally worry about. But since Trump decided to make an ass of himself by being a birther, let's play devils advocate shall we and worry about what Alan Grayson may or may not do shall we?
The damned ILLEGAL ALIEN ANCHOR babies are NOT NBCs.
Neither are children born to foreign diplomats here, at the time of their births, nor foreigners' children born here, when their parent is assigned to work at the UN !
It remains just that—Laurence Tribe’s OPINION.
whether learned or not, it is an opinion, and Tribe was very clear—it is not settled.
And it won’t be until a court rules on it, one way or the other.
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