Exclusive: 1974 Canadian Electors’ List Named Ted Cruz’s Parents

Breitbart.com ^ | Jan. 8 2016 | Joel B. Pollak

[FR_addict]

A document uncovered by Breitbart News indicates that the parents of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) were named on a Calgary list of electors for Canada's federal election of July 8, 1974. Ted Cruz parents are listed as Cruz, Eleanor, Mrs. nd Cruz, Raphael, self employed, both at 920 Riverdale Avenue, South West in Calgary, Alberta.

Canadian law restricts (and restricted) federal voting rights to Canadian citizens.

In a statement to Breitbart News—the full text of which follows this article—Jason Johnson, chief strategist for Cruz for President, said that “the document itself does not purport to be a list of ‘registered Canadian voters.’ All this might conceivably establish is that this list of individuals (maybe) lived at the given addresses. It says nothing about who was a citizen eligible to vote.”

Johnson added: Eleanor was never a citizen of Canada, and she could not have been under the facts or the law. In short, she did not live in Canada long enough to be a Canadian citizen by the time Cruz was born in 1970: Canadian law required 5 years of permanent residence, and she moved to Canada in December 1967—only 3 years before Senator Cruz’s birth. ...

[Dstorm]

What Records????

[FR_addict]

“Because I don’t believe he is. I don’t believe a real conservative would personally take the lead to push TPA through the Congress. I don’t believe a conservative would vote to give obumer pre-aproval to make any deal he wanted with Iran with automatic full Congressional support. I don’t believe a conservative would want to flood the country with foreign workers when over 25% of working age Americans are unemployed. That’s why.”

I agree. His wife was part of the CFR and they owe to big time money donors. I haven’t trusted Cruz since the TPA vote. My reasons are the same as yours.

It’s not too much to ask for a candidate born abroad to prove his citizenship. There should be a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen.

I still don’t believe he qualifies as a Natural Born Citizen, but if he produces his CRBA, it will put the story to rest concernning his US citizenship.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is there any doubt that a child born of citizen mother and father on the soil of their country a natural being a natural born citizen?

Not to me.

Can there be doubts, argument in other configurations like we're having now?

Sure.

What do you think the Founding Fathers meant with that in mind?

They didn't say only born here, only born to 2 citizen parents, so I don't think that's the only way to be a NBC.

[JoSixChip]

I haven't trusted Cruz since the TPA vote.

That was exactly my turning point too.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Excerpt from an article by Mario Apuzzo, March 31, 2011

Yeah, cool article(s).

Now let's get back to your claim about parents in the Constitution.

[Despot of the Delta]

Schrödinger's cat

[Toddsterpatriot]

Actually, both parents have to be Citizens of the US at the time of the child's birth.

Based on what, your feelings?

[JoSixChip]

What Records????

Cruz's state department records for openers, I think he should also release his records in Canada as well. He is not running for dog catcher, he is running for POTUS. If he intends to be our leader, we have a right to know his history.

[Mollypitcher1]

(5) Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 167-68 (1875) (providing the same Vattelian definition without citing Vattel, and not in any way referring to the English common law, stated: “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are either a Citizen at Birth or you are a Naturalized Citizen. Cruz was not Naturalized.

Citizen at Birth = Natural Born Citizen. There is no Constitutional language that says otherwise.

Winner!

[Mr Rogers]

Minor goes on to say there may be other categories of NBC, and that they will NOT try to define it. That was largely done in Wong Kim Ark a few decades later, although there have been numerous other cases involving citizenship.

It is dishonest to cite Minor without citing the full paragraph.

[Mr Rogers]

“The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.”

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html

[Mollypitcher1]

My intellect has never been in question. Your insults show you for the infant you are. Slurs are beneath an adult conversation. if you do not understand the word POSSIBLE, do not even attempt to write a statement.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Don’t travel abroad, much, do ya Ron...

YOU wrote that he needed a passport to get into the US moron.

[Mollypitcher1]

You are dead WRONG...according to the Constitution, just in case that might matter to you which obviously it doesn’t.

[parksstp]

I also guess using the logic of “Must have 2 US Citizen Parents” and “Must be Born on US Soil” really screws the people of Point Roberts, WA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Roberts,_Washington

Imagine an American couple tying to get to the hospital (no medical facilities exist in Point Roberts) but because they have to go through 2 border check-points to get to the mainland USA in Blaine or Belligham, the wife can’t make it and they have to divert to Vancouver, BC. So under the scenario so many birthers give, the child isn’t an NBC which is just utter nonsense.

Or what about an American couple that go out on a Bahamas cruise while the woman is 5-6 months pregant and for whatever reason goes into early labor and a medical emergency ensues and she gives birth on the Cruise ship somewhere in the Atlantic in International waters. Let’s say the cruise ship is a non-US company. So the child isn’t a NBC?

Or what about the fateful day when scientists start cloning people or growing babies in test tubes. Are they NBC? Or women that have to have C-Sections to give birth, are those children MBC?

Or what about a Russian male that donates sperm to a fertility clinic in the US and a woman uses it to give birth. Is the child a NBC even though nobody knows who the father is except the fertility clinic?

Or what about an American couple that finds a German woman (non-US Citizen) to act as a surrogate mother. Is that child an NBC?

This is why the birther argument is so dumb. The list could go on and on. Ted Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen.

[Dstorm]

Well the only paperwork would be a FS-240 to get his passport, but i’ve been told that his mothers birth certificate was enough to prove he was a citizen a birth.

[Toddsterpatriot]

YOU wrote that he needed a passport to get into the US moron.

I guess he could have used his drivers license.

[CA Conservative]

if you do not understand the word POSSIBLE, do not even attempt to write a statement.

Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word "possible", because you keep pushing an impossibility as though it were possible. So let's make it clear - it is IMPOSSIBLE for Ted's mother to have been a Canadian citizen in 1970.

[CA Conservative]

No, at age 4 he would have entered the country on his mother's passport.