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To: TigerClaws
"Naturalized" is the opposite of "natural born". "Natural born" means a person is entitled to citizenship by reason of birth. "Naturalized" means the person was not born an American but applies to become such through established legal process. Cruz was born to an American mother. Thus, he is natural born, having been entitled to US citizenship by the circumstances of his birth.

Cruz’s mother was in Canada a total of 8 years. His mother and father (formerly a Cuban citizen) both became Canadian citizens.

Got a link for that?

Cruz's father became a Canadian. But he had no American citizenship to lose. Not so for Cruz's mother. You need to prove her renunciation or STFU!

If so, Cruz was born in Canada to two Canadian parents.

I’m saying that’s a major problem.

A major problem for you, perhaps. But not for the normally informed. Because it's a manufactured fact.

74 posted on 01/08/2016 1:10:58 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Don’t bother with Tigerclaws. He’s going to keep posting the same false arguments because he knows the other Trumpbots ejaculate when they read them.


78 posted on 01/08/2016 1:26:22 AM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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To: cynwoody

Forgive my lack of HTML skills. I will post in CAPS to your comments:

“Naturalized” is the opposite of “natural born”. “Natural born” means a person is entitled to citizenship by reason of birth. “Naturalized” means the person was not born an American but applies to become such through established legal process. Cruz was born to an American mother. Thus, he is natural born, having been entitled to US citizenship by the circumstances of his birth.

WRONG. NATURAL BORN = BORN HERE IN THE U S OF A. NATURALIZED = MADE CITIZEN BY LAW. CRUZ WAS BORN IN A FOREIGN LAND. HE WAS MADE CITIZEN BY LAW. THUS, NATURALIZED (MADE NATURAL).

Cruz’s mother was in Canada a total of 8 years. His mother and father (formerly a Cuban citizen) both became Canadian citizens.

Got a link for that?

YES I DO:

http://www.examiner.com/article/ted-cruz-must-show-naturalization-papers-to-keep-his-us-senate-seat

Cruz’s father became a Canadian. But he had no American citizenship to lose. Not so for Cruz’s mother. You need to prove her renunciation or STFU!

I WILL EXPLORE MORE AND GET BACK TO YOU. MY BELIEVE (AND I ADMIT I HAVE NOT YET PROVED IT) IS THAT CANADA ALLOWED YOU TO BE A CITIZEN OF THEIR COUNTRY AN NO OTHER. THUS, SHE WOULD HAVE RENOUNCED. BUT I WILL FIND OUT THE LAW...

A major problem for you, perhaps. But not for the normally informed. Because it’s a manufactured fact.

SEE ABOVE.


79 posted on 01/08/2016 1:26:55 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

If so, Cruz was born in Canada to two Canadian parents.

I’m saying that’s a major problem.
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Running around presenting this sort of “maybe possibly could-be” supposition as FACT is injurious to Cruz. Those who are less informed see this sort of stuff, tell their neighbor about it, and the first thing you know it’s a “well, everybody KNOWS . . .” item in the public consciousness that Cruz’s parents “were both Canadian” . . . that is WRONG and NOT TRUE. Are you trying to injure his candidacy on purpose? Please do your research on this stuff BEFORE you present it in a widely read forum like this one. If you can’t prove it — and I say you can’t — then kindly put a sock in it. Because it’s not nice to pass around SLURS and canards that have no basis in fact.


80 posted on 01/08/2016 1:30:06 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert ("Cruz." That's the answer.)
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