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McCain knifes Cruz: Um, I don't know if he's a natural-born citizen of the U.S.
Hot Air.com ^ | January 7, 2016 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 01/07/2016 2:50:29 PM PST by Kaslin

Via BuzzFeed, this makes three big names from three very different sectors of the party suddenly questioning Cruz’s eligibility. McCain represents the establishmentarians; Rand Paul represents libertarians; and Donald Trump represents … whatever the hell Trumpism is. It seems we’ve reached the “any weapon to hand” stage among Cruz’s political enemies. Which is interesting in ol’ Mav’s case, since his 2008 campaign against Obama will forever be remembered by grassroots righties for his refusal to go kitchen-sink on O. In the end, I guess the “wacko birds” were the real threat all along. May the McCain/Paul/Trump alliance last a thousand years.

The defense here, I assume, will be that the Supreme Court has never ruled on the “natural-born” clause in the Fourteenth Amendment, therefore McCain’s answer is correct. No one knows what the Court would do! But that’s too cute by half: There are statutes and scholarly opinions he could have cited if he wanted to downplay this line of attack against Cruz. Congress’s own statutory definition of citizenship by birth is expansive, extending it to children (like Cruz) of a single citizen-parent born abroad so long as the parent resided in the U.S. for some period of time. The idea that there are five votes on the Court to read a narrower definition into the Constitution when the text itself does nothing to define “natural-born” seems dubious to me, but that doesn’t mean Cruz-haters aren’t going to try. Why, here’s one well-known left-wing troll now promising to do just what Donald Trump wants and sue Cruz over his eligibility:

In addition to the question of whether Cruz's birth in Canada disqualifies him from being considered a natural-born citizen, for which there are clashing historical claims, Grayson notes there's disagreement about whether both parents of U.S. citizens born overseas must be citizens.

And then there's Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh Wilson.

Grayson says Wilson may have forfeited her U.S. citizenship by taking a Canadian oath of citizenship, and that he's seen no evidence she actually was born in the U.S.

Cruz’s mother "may have elected to give up her U.S. citizenship — she wasn't there on a visitor's visa for five years, that's for sure," he says.

Grayson says "if his mother, who clearly worked in Canada for years and years, did so while becoming a Canadian citizen and taking an oath, which is how you do it in Canada, she lost her citizenship by U.S. law, specifically Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act.”

Grayson says he’ll sue if Cruz wins the nomination, which makes it even more unlikely that a court would rule against Cruz. Imagine the public outcry if a major-party nominee was suddenly booted from the ballot months before the general election on a highly questionable, crabbed reading of a vague constitutional term. Who would replace Cruz as nominee? How many Cruz supporters would stay home in utter disgust at having the prize ripped out of their guy’s hands by judges, egged on by Cruz-haters from the left and right? No court wants to insert itself into a national election that way. But then, I doubt Grayson really believes he’d win. The point of the lawsuit is the same as Trump’s goal in nudging Cruz to go get a declaratory judgment about his eligibility: Both of them want to create enough of a cloud over Cruz’s status to discourage some voters and tilt a close election against Cruz. That makes sense for a hyper-partisan Democrat like Grayson who wants his party to hold the White House. What’s Trump’s — and Paul’s, and McCain’s — excuse?

Update: Fair point from some Cruz fans on Twitter: The best way for a conservative to endear himself to the base is to be shivved by John McCain. If anything, this will steer some righties into circling the wagons around Cruz. How does that play for Trump?

Update: Lotta Cruz-hating Democrats joining in on the fun today…

Pelosi: distinction between John McCain and "someone born in another country" on presidential eligibility. but says its not her place to say

— Lauren French (@laurennfrench) January 7, 2016

FWIW: Basically the only people who believed the birther claims against Obama were GOP primary voters, Cruz should not take this lightly

— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) January 6, 2016

…oh, and of course, Donald Trump too:

.@SenTedCruz Ted–free legal advice on how to pre-empt the Dems on citizen issue. Go to court now & seek Declaratory Judgment–you will win!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 7, 2016



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: buzzfeed; citizen; cruznbc; eligible; johnmccain; mccain; mccaincruz; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; president; primarymccain; tedcruz
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1 posted on 01/07/2016 2:50:29 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This is more an endorsement than a slam. McStain’s a weasel. If he said Bernie was bad, I’d have to rethink.


2 posted on 01/07/2016 2:51:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kaslin

McCain is backing his fellow Gang of 8 buddy, Rubio.

GO KELLI WARD!


3 posted on 01/07/2016 2:52:00 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: Kaslin

Pretty rich coming from McCainiac,, wasn’t he born in Panama?


4 posted on 01/07/2016 2:52:40 PM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: Kaslin

If I were Cruz, I’d send Kelli Ward a BIG fat check for her Senate campaign: http://www.kelliward.com/2a_executive_orders?splash=1 !


5 posted on 01/07/2016 2:52:49 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Still Thinking

I agree completely. Hadn’t thought of the Bernie analogy - thanks for the laugh!


6 posted on 01/07/2016 2:52:53 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: Kaslin

One of the harshest criticisms that can be made of a person
is “they are dishonest.” That is not something to be said lightly.

McCain is dishonest.


7 posted on 01/07/2016 2:54:38 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: conservativejoy

Who’s Kelli Ward?


8 posted on 01/07/2016 2:55:28 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

I am not sure that Trump is a human being.....he sounds sort of douchebaggish.


9 posted on 01/07/2016 2:58:57 PM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t think that aside from Lindsay Graham and Jeb Bush, anyone really cares what John McCain thinks.


10 posted on 01/07/2016 2:59:09 PM PST by laconic (M)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes he was, but he was born on a American naval Station which made it American territory and both his parents were US Citizen.


11 posted on 01/07/2016 2:59:10 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: NormsRevenge

To two NBC, so he was okay to run. But that WAS investigated when he was running and everyone was jumping all over him for where he was born.


12 posted on 01/07/2016 2:59:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: shankbear

Like I said, Trump will not get my vote. My mind is made up.


13 posted on 01/07/2016 3:01:59 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

McCain received a “dispensation” from congress when his own eligibility was questioned. Now he’s going to beat up on Cruz over his eligibility. What class!

Someone tell McCain to retire. I think his injuries during his Vietnam imprisonment have made him a bitter insane old man.


15 posted on 01/07/2016 3:02:11 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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16 posted on 01/07/2016 3:04:02 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: shankbear
All of this was started because Trump was asked a question by a reporter; he didn't bring it up!

Of course Trump is a human being; however, whether YOU are a sentient one is questionable.

17 posted on 01/07/2016 3:04:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Kaslin

The gal in Arizona who wants to primary him out.


18 posted on 01/07/2016 3:08:40 PM PST by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: Kaslin

Kelli Ward will be then next Senator from AZ.


19 posted on 01/07/2016 3:08:40 PM PST by apostoli (Time to thump the nose of the parrots.)
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To: Kaslin
McCain's answer is correct. No one knows what the Court would do! But that's too cute by half:

The author's complaint is too cute by a half. The Democrats would definitely use it against Cruz. Probably some Democrat state officials would refuse to put Cruz on the ballot forcing Cruz to sue. They don't play nice like Pubs. Why should anyone pretend it won't be an issue, or that they know how the court would rule just to make it easier for Cruz?

20 posted on 01/07/2016 3:09:50 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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