Posted on 01/07/2016 9:35:59 AM PST by Isara
That’s awesome
Look on the upside of the downside ....and there's plenty of downside. Trump could turn out to be a 60's liberal Democrat indifferent to RKBA, immigration, territorial integrity, and fiscal sanity. He could turn out to be a stalking-horse for Hildebeast (remember that 45-minute private conversation with Slick Willie before he announced?) or a Rockefeller clone.
What we do get, which is the upside of some pretty good downside, is a free look at whether Obama's acts and E.O.'s can be invalidated due to NBC issues, once we break into his trove of protected identity and education documents. If Ted Cruz isn't NBC enough for SCOTUS, then chances are that Indonesian Passport Boy isn't either. Especially if his trendy Red mom never got around to trotting him down to the State Department office in Hawaii to reclaim his U.S. citizenship and turn in his Indonesian documents -- and we've heard he kept that passport. If he renaturalized, he couldn't have kept it -- capiche?
If we find out Obama's not NBC, his whole _residency becomes a peel-off sticker, his acts and legislation subject to legal attack as invalid, and the White House declared vacant for his entire eight years in orifice.
I hope to God it’s not true when Dad Cruz said the two of them took the Canadian oath of citizenship. I cannot imagine that any candidate, especially one as smart as Cruz, would run with this hanging out there.
Because if it’s true, we have a real bag of snakes on our hands.
Birth of U.S. Citizens Abroad
A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met. The child’s parents should contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate to apply for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA) to document that the child is a U.S. citizen. If the U.S. embassy or consulate determines that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, a consular officer will approve the CRBA application and the Department of State will issue a CRBA, also called a Form FS-240, in the child’s name.
According to U.S. law, a CRBA is proof of U.S. citizenship and may be used to obtain a U.S. passport and register for school, among other purposes.
The child’s parents may choose to apply for a U.S. passport for the child at the same time that they apply for a CRBA. Parents may also choose to apply only for a U.S. passport for the child. Like a CRBA, a full validity, unexpired U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship.
Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States. By law, U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States.
Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA, or Form FS-240)
If you are a U.S. citizen and have a child overseas, you should report his or her birth as soon as possible so that a Consular Report of Birth Abroad can be issued as an official record of the child’s claim to U.S. citizenship. Report the birth of your child abroad at the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate. Check the American Citizens Services portion of the webpage for the nearest Embassy or Consulate in the country where your child was born for further instructions about how to apply for a CRBA. Please note:
A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. citizen is only issued to a child who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth and who is generally under the age of 18 at the time of the application.
The U.S. embassy or consulate will provide one original copy of an eligible child’s Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen.
A more secure Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen was introduced in January 2011. This new CRBA has been updated with a variety of state of the art security features, and is printed centrally in the United States. U.S. embassies and consulates no longer print CRBAs locally, but you still must apply there. The central production was initiated to ensure uniform quality and reduce vulnerability to fraud. The previous version of the CRBA continues to be valid proof of U.S. citizenship.
You may replace, amend or request multiple copies of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. Citizen at any time.
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Puerto Rico
U.S. Virgin Islands American Samoa
Guam
Swains Island
The Panama Canal Zone before October 1, 1979
The Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands after January 8, 1978 (8PM EST)
The Philippines before July 4, 1946
Other Citizenship Documents Issued to U.S. Citizens Born Abroad
Certification of Report of Birth (DS-1350)
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Certificate of Citizenship issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
A person born abroad who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth but who is over the age of 18 (and so not eligible for a CRBA) may wish to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship to document acquisition pursuant to 8 U.S.C. 1452. Visit USCIS.gov for further information.
Yes, you can if the country where you are born recognizes jus soli - (if you are born in that country, regardless of the nationalities of your parents). The U.S. recognizes natural born citizenship if you are born here (even if neither of your parents is a U.S. citizenship) AND if you are born in another country as long as one of your parents is a U.S. citizen (and has lived here for the requisite amount of time). Canada did as well in 1970, the year Cruz was born. I don't know if Canada still does.
If they won’t take up the Obama records, they cannot take up the Cruz records.
Only the Electoral College and Congress (HOR) has standing. When they abdicated such in deference to the “popular election” results, it opened the field to ANYONE.
“Not the world’s strongest argument but at least it doesn’t misstate American history.”
1. Two wrongs do not make a right.
2. The Soviet Union had a constitution which guaranteed many noble rights, yet the totalitarian Communist government systematically destroyed those rights and tens of millions of Soviet lives while doing so. In each case, this totalitarianism was made possible by the direct abrogation of the written constitution/s and by the indirect subversion of those constitutions.
3. In case after case, each totalitarian government gained power and wielded power against the citizens by first subverting the rule of law and their constitutional governments.
4. If you want to preserve Freedom, you must first preserve the freedoms in law, and then act to preserve that rule of law responsible for preserving those freedoms. You cannot do that by embarking or tolerating infringements upon the rule of law or the infringement of Freedom in those laws.
FYI.
Canada and the U.S. need to get with the program.
His mother told him she never applied for Canadian citizenship for him. Most countries don’t have birthright citizenship. In actuality, his Canadian citizen was nullified when he voted in his first U.S. election, but he still went through the formality of renouncing it.
Court opinions, congressional statutes, Harvard professors... The ONLY thing that matters is- what did natural born mean when the Constitution was adopted?
hate to be a “neener-neener” but your link isn’t directed to the Canadian regulations...just an online info-site.
I’m still skeptical..
Horse Crap. Cruz’s parents reported his birth to the American Consulate, which sealed his citizenship. Cruz was never naturalized.
actually, canada is one of the few countries with birth right/ born on the soil citizenship (unlike the US)
The nature of the case is not pertinent. What is pertinent is the discussion about NBC. They specifically had an exchange about the requirements for Presidency.
Justice Scalia has indicated now in TWO separate instances that he leans toward a requirement of born on US soil.
That doesn’t mean that is how he would rule.
How so?
Enlighten me, please.
Candidates choose which questions they will answer. They have a thousand ways of sidestepping or ignoring altogether a question. And trump is very good at this. trump knew what it was doing.
Before the Constitution, the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,†written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758.
http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm
In book one chapter 19 § 212. Of the citizens and natives:
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
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