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Can the Free Syrian Army Get Back on Its Feet? demoralized by Russia's involvement
usnews.com ^ | Jan. 4, 2016, at 4:08 p.m. | Mona Alami

Posted on 01/05/2016 11:36:14 AM PST by Trumpinator

According to a recent report by the Institute for the Study of War, Russia's involvement in the Syrian civil war has shifted the battlefield momentum in favor of President Bashar al-Assad. It reads, "In Aleppo province, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and associated proxy forces launched a multipronged offensive on Oct. 15 that has seized large swaths of rebel-held terrain in the southern countryside of Aleppo City."

According to the same report, pro-regime forces achieved tactical gains against the opposition in northeastern Latakia province. The FSA is currently present in northern Syria around Aleppo and Hama as well as in southern Syria.

The FSA is considered the biggest and most secular of the rebel groups currently fighting the Assad government. Its estimated 35,000 fighters are mostly defectors from the Syrian military, according to Syrian analyst Sinan Hatahet from the Istanbul-based think tank Omran Dirasat.

In an interview with Al-Monitor, Hatahet explained that the organization consists of about 27 larger factions, each comprised of an average of 1,000 fighters as well as some smaller units or localized militias, some as small as a few dozen militants. There are thousands of brigades of various sizes.

The Russian onslaught and diminishing support from the Military Operating Center in Jordan (a center allegedly staffed by Western, Gulf and Jordanian military advisers providing planning, funding and logistical support to rebels in southern Syria) is putting pressure on the fragmented organization, which is also plagued by low pay, desertions and corruption.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps = Free Syrian Army

Says it all.

1 posted on 01/05/2016 11:36:14 AM PST by Trumpinator
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To: Trumpinator

Free Syrian Army
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Allies

Islamic Front[10]

Opponents

Syrian Armed Forces
National Defense Force
al-Nusra Front[11][12][13][14]
Jund al-Aqsa[15]
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant[16]


2 posted on 01/05/2016 11:44:49 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: Trumpinator; ETL
Rivals and allies in this war
Wikipedia
The FSA considers ISIS to be an enemy of the revolution as it has openly criticized the group. FSA leaders accuse "ISIS of imposing its extremist ideology on areas it controls and of kidnapping and murdering other members of the opposition".[181] ISIL's expanding claims to territory gradually brought it into armed conflict with many governments, militias and other armed groups. In October 2014, battalions fighting with the Free Syrian Army joined the Kurdish militia in Kobane to battle ISIS.[182]



3 posted on 01/05/2016 11:49:52 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: familyop

This a-hole is still around?


4 posted on 01/05/2016 11:51:01 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Trumpinator

Do we, or anybody, even WANT the “Free Syrian Army” back on its feet?

They only muddy up and complicate what is going on in Syria.

Syria, like Iraq, is fracturing into two or possibly three different countries, one Kurdish, one Sunni, and a third a complex relationship of Alawite-Shi’ite alliance. The insurgent territory that claims to be “Islamic State”, formed out of Iraq and Syria provinces, is now the common enemy.

Spoils of war - give the territory now claimed by Islamic State to the Kurds as the core of the new nation of Kurdistan. All they got to do is capture it, and eliminate all remnants of the so-called Islamic State army.

Tell the IS defenders, “Run, boy. You just gonna die tired.” Makes no difference if the kill wound is in the front or the back. Rehabilitation is not an option.


5 posted on 01/05/2016 11:52:45 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: ETL

Yep. Some global business concerns are somewhat principled. Others do all that they can for foreign enemies like Iran and Russia—anything for a buck. Virtually all political lobbies are corrupt.

Vaclav Havel and Lech Walesa were right.


6 posted on 01/05/2016 11:56:36 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: ETL
The State of Politics Today


7 posted on 01/05/2016 11:59:10 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: alloysteel

If you want the Turks, and then NATO, to get in a major theater wide war, give the Kurd’s their own country.

Turkey would rather risk Armageddon than have that happen.


8 posted on 01/05/2016 12:00:32 PM PST by redgolum
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To: familyop

Lol! I was referring to T. Didn’t even read this article yet.


9 posted on 01/05/2016 12:04:11 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

So was I, in a way. Some trade interests will betray their own nations for cheap oil, untrustworthy trading partners, and to put off inevitable wars to allow enemy nuclear buildups against us. Their blogging political dupes disseminate their propaganda for them.


10 posted on 01/05/2016 12:10:10 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: familyop; ETL

So you guys support Saudi Arabia’s foreign policy of jihad?


11 posted on 01/05/2016 12:29:13 PM PST by Trumpinator (I regret I have but only one vote to give for Trump for my country.)
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To: alloysteel
"They know not what they do" applies. Once these states break apart - unlike the American Civil war where it almost happened here - it is almost impossible to reform them as a whole again.

We may well see a Kurdistan and a host of smaller nations around religions and clans arise. And in that part of the world that means a Lebanon kind of civil war but across the whole so called Middle East.

Sometimes religion masks tribalism. The Taliban is mostly a Pushtun enterprise and the anti-Taliban come from the various non Pushtun groups.

12 posted on 01/05/2016 12:32:20 PM PST by Trumpinator (I regret I have but only one vote to give for Trump for my country.)
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To: Trumpinator

I didn’t even read the damn article yet. I’m getting ready to eat.


13 posted on 01/05/2016 12:45:16 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Trumpinator

Russia’s intervention pretty much ended the chances of toppling Assad militarily. That removes the motivation for fighting and dying to remove Assad. US support of FSA and other groups to fight ISIS is plausible, if they will actualy fight ISIS (not FSA’s thing to my knowledge). But supporting them to continue a civil war against Assad as a bargaining chip for a negotiated change of Syrian regime seems like a cynical waste of money and lives.


14 posted on 01/05/2016 12:46:00 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Trumpinator; ETL
We're for the U.S.A.

The latest news:

Iran unveils second underground missile, likely to irk U.S. (Emad; nuclear warhead carry capable)
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3379940/posts



Old news for those with at least average human intelligence and attention spans:

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RIA Novosti (Russian state-owned outlet) ^ | 08AUG07 |
Marianna Belenkaya, Russian Government
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878354/posts


Putin's speech in the following two articles is reminiscent of speech from the Iranian mullahs, presidents and generals.

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http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1282021/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513904/posts


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Why Russia should sell weapons to Iran and Syria
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1878354/posts


''Intelligence Brief: Russia's Moves in Syria''
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658282/posts
(from 2006)

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658558/posts
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15 posted on 01/05/2016 1:02:42 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: familyop
Aug 2015...

 photo Obama Iran Deal Russia KGB Putin 01_zpspjyus9ja.jpg
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July 2015...
Officials: Iran nuclear deal fuels Middle East arms race, boosts Russia's influence
FoxNews ^ | July 14, 2015 | Catherine Herridge

16 posted on 01/05/2016 1:04:30 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Trumpinator

Sounds like their bank accounts in Switzerland need a top-up.


17 posted on 01/05/2016 1:14:24 PM PST by PGR88
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To: familyop

We’re for the U.S.A. - by being for Saudi Arabia?


18 posted on 01/05/2016 1:42:52 PM PST by Trumpinator (I regret I have but only one vote to give for Trump for my country.)
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To: PGR88
Sounds like their bank accounts in Switzerland need a top-up. ---- It could be that the operations are ending that they backers - whom ever they are - are cutting their losses?

I don't think this revolution was started from the outside - the people inside Syria are clearly dysfunctional but it does seem outside forces kept this war going longer than it would have if no outside actors were involved.

19 posted on 01/05/2016 1:44:54 PM PST by Trumpinator (I regret I have but only one vote to give for Trump for my country.)
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