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Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule
Politico ^ | January 4th, 2016 | By David Pittman

Posted on 01/04/2016 7:33:04 PM PST by Mariner

Delivering on its promise to deliver "common sense" gun control, the Obama administration on Monday finalized a rule that enables health care providers to report the names of mentally ill patients to an FBI firearms background check system.

The action was one of a series of steps that President Barack Obama had called for in January 2013 in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings to curb gun violence, but the rule was not published until today.

While the 1993 Brady law prohibits gun ownership by individuals who have been involuntarily committed, found incompetent to stand trial or otherwise deemed by a court to be a danger to themselves or others, federal health care privacy rules prohibited doctors and other providers from sharing information without the consent of their patients.

Under the rule, which takes effect next month, for the first time health providers can disclose the information to the background check system without legal repercussions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunsmentalillness; obamaguncontrol; obamagunpresser; tyranny
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To: dp0622

does that count?
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Oh, Heck yes.

A local lady, who owned guns already, started the process at the local gun shop for another one.

Because she went for counseling after a divorce some time ago, she was denied, and was to turn in all her existing guns.

This is CA, but soon could be everyone.


21 posted on 01/04/2016 7:45:29 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Mariner

Gee, how does this square with HIPAA?


22 posted on 01/04/2016 7:46:33 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Timber Rattler; FreedomStar3028
"Unconstitutional."

Of course it is.

But who is going to stop him?

23 posted on 01/04/2016 7:47:09 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

Define “mentally ill.”. You mean like men who think they’re women? Or men who bugger each other? Or do you mean people who think “shall not be infringed” means “shall not be infringed”?


24 posted on 01/04/2016 7:47:30 PM PST by IronJack
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To: rktman
"Or strictly subjective, arbitrary and capricious kind of like the no fly list."

That depends on whether the Doc is subject to civil suit or not.

25 posted on 01/04/2016 7:48:14 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

Theres 435 of them on Capitol Hill.


26 posted on 01/04/2016 7:48:34 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Scrambler Bob

This is madness.

Part of the problem is that they won’t even commit the dangerously mentally ill, and so now any minor complaint gets lumped in with those who long to carve their neighbors up like a turkey.


27 posted on 01/04/2016 7:49:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Neither is 0buttbongo’s prescience in the Oval Office..


28 posted on 01/04/2016 7:49:12 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: PAR35

And stay away from psychiatrists.
== == ==

Pretty soon anyone who has NOT seen a psychiatrist or does not have ‘anxiety, etc.’ will be the ‘odd’ one; normal will be abnormal.


29 posted on 01/04/2016 7:49:12 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Mariner

After I had my first heart attack, one of the ‘team’ doctors came to see me, asked me if I was a member of the NRA or did I own a weapon...told him he was there to treat my health, and it was none of his business how I lived my personal life...

When my heart doctor came in later, he remarked that the other ‘team’ doctor thought I had became upset over the answer I gave him, I told my heart doctor I wasn’t upset at all, he asked, I answered...doc just laughed....

Some of the questions these doctors ask now days are way to much information for me....


30 posted on 01/04/2016 7:49:13 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (.."THE FORCE AWAKENS"!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP 100%....)
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To: Mariner

Ever had a prescription for Valium? Kiss your gun rights goodbye.

On Zoloft? Same.


31 posted on 01/04/2016 7:50:18 PM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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To: rktman

If I tell my doctor to GFY when he asks me if I have any guns in the home, will I be listed as mentally ill?


32 posted on 01/04/2016 7:51:24 PM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: Mariner

So, VA docs are good to go on reporting your twitch in your left eye as a sign of possible terror traits? :>)


33 posted on 01/04/2016 7:51:39 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Mariner

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As if sensible people needed another reason to avoid the charlatans known as doctors.

Profiting off of illnesses that are beyond their desire to alleviate is as dishonest as one can get.

We need Ted Cruz in office to deal with this attack properly.


34 posted on 01/04/2016 7:52:01 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Scrambler Bob

That sucks. The only counseling available for me then would be to call Dr, Jack daniels.


35 posted on 01/04/2016 7:52:17 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: TADSLOS

LOL! Yup. But tell him they’re not yours and belong to your friend George. (Invisible of course)


36 posted on 01/04/2016 7:52:37 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: TADSLOS

just say “gun? Like Guns n Roses? yeah, I have that CD.”


37 posted on 01/04/2016 7:53:14 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: max americana

Pay cash.

Don’t get an electronic record.


38 posted on 01/04/2016 7:53:28 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Mariner

This creates a conflict between Law (HIPPA) and administration rules. A doctor who reports could be setting themselves up for at a minimum, a law suit and quite possibly criminal prosecution.


39 posted on 01/04/2016 7:53:29 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: rktman

I’ll tell him I’m holding them for my Obama voting neighbor.


40 posted on 01/04/2016 7:53:31 PM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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