Posted on 01/03/2016 3:52:43 PM PST by annalex
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So, what was the motive / reason for shooting I down?
It was an accident. They thought it was a Ukrainian plane.
From what I read, all the airlines vectored around Ukraine for this very reason. Except for Malaysia Air which failed to do so.
Their body count approached 600 for that year.
Flying into a war zone is usually unwise. Malaysia Air didn’t read the memo.
Your assertion is not true. What is true is that some, but not all, airlines were avoiding this airspace.
The airspace was not closed to commercial traffic, and I believe that most airlines continued to use it until the shoot-down. I think the record will show that traffic passed through this area immediately before and after MH117.
According to data from the flight-tracking company FlightRadar24, there were 55 planes that flew over eastern Ukraine around where Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 was hit on Thursday, including those from Qatar, Emirates, Etihad, Austrian Airlines, Thai Airways, Jet Airways and Pakistan International Airways.
A Singapore Airlines flight from Copenhagen to Singapore was within 15 miles of Flight 17 at the time of the crash.
Link: http://mashable.com/2014/07/18/ukraine-planes-conflict-zones/#gJculsjfZiqx
"They need to know who has pressed the button on them. They should also know who the orders given for the firing of the missile"
Observe: Bellingcat does not know who shot MH17 down and for what reason. But Bellingcat has evidence of chain of possession of the Buk weapon.
The prevailing theory is that the Russian military loaned the weapon to the separatists (with or without the personnel capable of aiming it properly), who then shot it at the airliner mistaking it for a Ukrainian military plane. The crew of the Buk are identified in the investigation and they should be able to corroborate or controvert this theory.
The airspace was not closed. The altitude of the flight was assumed safe.
That's interesting, because even on that global flight-tracking website, you could see all the international flights flying over the same area.
Thanks annalex.
Nor did the other 100+ flights that flew over the same region.
Yeah, this is correct. The “safe ceiling” was something like FL25, and commercial flights tend to be FL30+.
That changed when the Russians brought in Buk, which nobody really knew was there (or being used, at least) until MH17 was shot down.
I mean FL250/FL300 of course.
My guess is that they just wanted to play with their new "toy." Probably drunk.
As I remember it, they thought it was an AN-26 which is capable of FL250 or so but no higher.
Here’s the intercept transcript release by Ukraine: http://www.ibtimes.com/mh17-crash-full-transcript-alleged-phone-intercepts-between-russian-intelligence-1631992
Thing is, MH17 would have been a lot higher that an AN-26 is capable of, plus it had its blasted transponder on. There’s no excuse.
Drunk and Russian is no way to go through life, son.
You answered your own question. They did not figure much. After watching a few videos of these "rebels" one gets the idea that those people are not strong at figuring anything. Anyone who gave them anything more powerful than bows and arrows committed a crime against humanity.
Another masterstroke by Putin, imo. He got some of his human trash off the streets of Moscow by paying them to go to E. Ukraine. Now they are stuck there, and Putin doesn’t care one whit about it.
There were locals, too. Remember that Donbass is an economically depressed region, dependent solely on coal extraction and metallurgy for revenue and with high unemployment. That is the human material criminals and insurgents are made everywhere.
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