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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The second amendment, interpreted properly, means Joe Schmoe can have an Abrams in his garage.


21 posted on 01/03/2016 3:36:36 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Crazieman

And if his neighbors were unhappy with how he wanted to use it, they’d likely have their own Abramses too... the idea is that the posse comitatus would have whatever arms capability they wished.


24 posted on 01/03/2016 3:38:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Crazieman

My understanding is that, in the terms used at the time of drafting and ratification, “arms” meant any weapon that a common foot soldier could carry into battle, whereas “ordinance” is a reference to heavy weaponry, such as canon, which a common soldier could not carry into battle ...

Therefore, this would exclude any American citizen from, er-uh, “keeping and bearing” an Abrams Tank ... However, I see no problem with a 30 or 50 cal machine gun, bazooka, mortar, etc - since any of those could be carried by a common foot soldier ... Well, OK, the 50 cal would be a rather heavy piece of “arms” to carry around, unless you’re Rambo.


95 posted on 01/03/2016 12:57:15 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Crazieman

“The second amendment, interpreted properly, means Joe Schmoe can have an Abrams in his garage.”

That is arguably correct. A well ‘regulated’ militia no longer holds the meaning it did when written. Well ‘regulated’ mean’t ‘effective’. And yes, an effective militia would have an Abrams tank.

But that’s the problem. We might all want such things in our garage, but I don’t want a nuclear warhead in my neighbor’s garage. So we need a new amendment to clarify that if the Constitution is to be respected as-written.

Until we clarify the Constitution it will remain a ‘breathing’, evolving play-dough document.


120 posted on 01/04/2016 7:17:34 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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