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To: Lorianne

I don’t think the US Government (at least one under Trump) would put up with the number of suicides of employees that China does. The work conditions are horrendous. They live in huge dorms with thousands of other people and work in long shifts, sleep then work again. They are constantly assigned new jobs so that they cannot develop friendships with other ‘workers’.


16 posted on 12/31/2015 8:22:18 AM PST by Vic S
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To: Vic S
I don't think the US Government (at least one under Trump) would put up with the number of suicides of employees that China does. The work conditions are horrendous. They live in huge dorms with thousands of other people and work in long shifts, sleep then work again. They are constantly assigned new jobs so that they cannot develop friendships with other 'workers'.

Uh, the suicide rate in the United States for young people in the 18 to 32 age cohort is 11 per 100,000 per year. In the worst year for suicides at FoxConn in all of it 26 plants and 800,000 works aged 18 to 32, the suicides numbered 18 in an 18 month period. Six of those occurred at one plant in the space of about four months in 2010. Calculating the rate gives them a suicide rate of UNDER 1 in 100,000 per year for that 18 month period, far less than the suicide rate among the same age cohort in Ivy League Universities in the USA.

Those FoxConn suicides occurred 150 miles away from the nearest factory assembling any Apple products. The workers who killed themselves had been variously working on lines assembling Microsoft Xboxes, Nokia cell phones, HP computers, and Sony PlayStations. In addition, international investigators brought in from outside China found through interviews with friends the suicides did not kill themselves due to working conditions but for various reasons such as a love triangle, homesickness, mental illness, and to get the death benefits FoxConn was paying the surviving families of between $25,000 and $50,000. When that was learned the CEO announced that he was stopping paying the death benefit to suicides. The suicides stopped.

Since 2011, the suicide rate among the 1.5 million FoxConn workers is less than 1 per 500,000 per year. In 2013, there were ZERO suicides among any of FoxConn's workers.

That is remarkable in a country with an overall national suicide rate of 44 per 100,000. Us is 21 per 100,000 overall.

Working conditions are not what you describe which is what China Labor Watch's propaganda presents, an organization which has been exposed faking interviews, videos, and other "evidence" to push their agenda.

They've used video taken at other companies and claimed it was FoxConn, provided false English translations that turned out the interviewee was saying nothing at all like what the English translation was saying.

Mike Daisey's discredited "The Agony and Ecstacy of Steve Jobs" was facilitated by China Labor watch. It had to be pulled from circulation by NPR when they learned of the fakery.

China Labor Watch is located in New York City, and is a money collecting charity engine, not a labor rights organization, which uses lying propaganda to collect donations, most of which lines their pockets, and only a very small percentage goes to do labor condition improvements in China. CLW knows that by putting "Apple" in their headlines they get more clicks and therefore more money!

Apple has done far more for China's workers than CLW's false propaganda.

79 posted on 01/04/2016 10:23:20 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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