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The chemical behind the great bee dieoff
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS / ^
| Wednesday, December 30, 2015
| Heather Leibowitz
Posted on 12/30/2015 3:47:03 PM PST by presidio9
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To: Texas Eagle
Still not a fan of genetically modifying food so they contain pesticides You realize that all plants contain pesticides naturally?
Otherwise they never would have survived.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:07:21 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
To: Wissa
FWIW, I'm going to give mason bees a try for pollinating my fruit trees. How does this work. Do you buy them from a distributor?
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:08:35 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: rockinqsranch
Probably want to pull the thread, and start again as too many donât read the articles in depth to get to know what your point is. Trust me, I know. I just had a two deal back and forth what a nutjob who called me an a..hole for telling him to RTFT before posting next time.
As for me, I like to hear both sides of the argument from conservative critical thinkers. I think we have a fair representation here, so I'm ok with this thread.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:12:11 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: MSF BU
So the hype regarding no bees being left to accomplish pollination is overblown? 100%
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:13:08 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: presidio9
Journal of American Science 2012;8(9) http://www.jofamericanscience.org
1122
Conclusion
The results of this study showed several changes in organs/body weight and serum biochemistry in the rats fed on GM corn. These findings indicate potential adverse health/toxic effects of GM corn and further investigations still needed.
To: presidio9
Would it not be true that virtually all food crops have been genetically-modified?
After all, every major grain, fruit and vegetable crop has been extensively hybridized -- and hybridization is simply a form of genetic modification.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:18:24 PM PST
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
I am no Lepidopterist but I do know a bit about the disappearance of the Monarch. Again, it is difficult to cut through the GMO propaganda.
As far as I am concerned, Monarch numbers have dropped for two reasons:
First, and most significantly, the deforestation of the wintering sites in Mexico.
And second, the removal a milkweed from the landscape, which is indeed a byproduct of GMO farmers ability to aggressively spray their crops a couple of time a season. Butterfly larve can only feed on Milkweed, and for that reason females will either find one to lay their eggs on or die trying.
The correct response to the second should be encouraging people to plant more ornamental milkweed in their gardens, and this has been happening over the past few years.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:20:05 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: presidio9
Yes.
They tend to nest individually so you should make a special nesting block for them.
They work at colder temperatures then the honey bees do and are docile by nature.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:20:22 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:24:43 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You realize that all plants contain pesticides naturally? Including, as someone mentioned here earlier, the tobacco plant, who's natural pesticide is in fact nicotine.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:26:43 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: MarchonDC09122009
A truly conservative critical thinkers insist on informed consent for knowing whatâs in our food and if itâs safe and efficiently produced in the LONG run.
Your are only increasing cost and involving more government.
You want this stuff, go buy organic. We don’t need more govt regulation.
STOP COMPLAINING WITH YOUR MOUTH FULL. We live in a time of tremendous choice and availability of food. Has never happened in history before.
Just because you are against something is no reason to use force of law to make us pay for what you want.
A TRUE CONSERVATIVE WILL LOOK TO THE MARKET, NOT THE GOVERNEMTN. Vote with your dollars and buy organic.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:29:19 PM PST
by
PeterPrinciple
(Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
To: PeterPrinciple
A TRUE CONSERVATIVE WILL LOOK TO THE MARKET, NOT THE GOVERNEMTN. Vote with your dollars and buy organic. Or don't. Humans have been genetically modifying crops for as long as there has been such a thing as agriculture.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:32:20 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: presidio9
And the hot pepper plant. The coating on quinoa is also a poison.
It is surprising how many plants we cultivate and eat are poisonous in the right amounts.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:32:37 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
To: redfreedom
Enviro whacks will best 'any drum' they think that will put power or money in their pocket.
HOWEVER, if you've walked in the woods much through the years, you'd have noticed the loss of bees, and even though I don't like them, hornets nest too.
Ask any hunter that's been in the woods the last decade or two, and they'll tell you the same.
In short, something's killing them.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:40:03 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
The castor bean produces one of the deadliest poisons known to man. But some part of virtually every plant is poisonous. They’ve been at this game a lot longer than we have. By most estimates, only 5 to 10 percent of all plants are edible in any way edible by humans.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:40:33 PM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does.)
To: gleeaikin
GMO foods: Like anything else, some are good and some are bad.
However, if the seed won't naturally reproduce, then they aren't healthy, as far as I'm concerned.
"... you cannot expect animals to be at their best if they are not well treated and well fed."
I'd agree with that statement.
HOWEVER, something IS killing the bees and other insects.
There's a lot of money to be made by controlling the food supply, and germination/ fertilization of the seed is one way to do it.
It's also a way to control the population.
"For corn, pigs would probably be a good test animal. "
A slightly different direction of the conversation, but swine aren not a good test animal for humans.
I cut meat for a living for about 4 years for a living, before my military years,
and I can tell you from cleaning the coolers where the meat was stored,
and from cutting the animals apart, that pork is one of the least self-cleaning animals of all meats.
Poultry coolers and fish coolers had to be cleaned almost every day,
and beef coolers had to be cleaned about every 3 to 5 days;
but the pork coolers could go almost 2 weeks before they needed cleaning.
Pork meat and fat just didn't 'drain' the impurities out of itself as well as other meats.
If you want to be healthy and live right, and treat the land and animals right,
the way to do it ... is written in the Old Testament.
It's just that simple.
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posted on
12/30/2015 7:58:03 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
However, if the seed won't naturally reproduce, then they aren't healthy, as far as I'm concerned. They will reproduce, they just will not have the same characteristics as their parent plant.
Take the seed from a Hass Avocado and plant it. You will get an avocado tree but not a Hass Avocado. All Hass Avocado are grafted. The original grafts came from a sport tree that has never reproduced naturally.
Plants are funny things.
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posted on
12/30/2015 8:07:13 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
“Ive been feeding butterflies for decades with the Buddleia bush (Butterfly bush) and similar butterfly-attracting flowers. “
Monarchs can sip nectar from Buddleia but their caterpillars cannot feed on it. Asclepia milkweed is the food source for their caterpillars, plant some and you’ll do them a favor.
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posted on
12/30/2015 8:21:06 PM PST
by
Pelham
(Muslim immigration...the enemy is inside the wire.)
To: presidio9
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posted on
12/30/2015 8:26:19 PM PST
by
Pelham
(Muslim immigration...the enemy is inside the wire.)
To: Pelham
Monarchs can sip nectar from Buddleia but their caterpillars cannot feed on it. Asclepia milkweed is the food source for their caterpillars, plant some and youâll do them a favor. Dill weed works, too.
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posted on
12/30/2015 8:45:38 PM PST
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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