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The chemical behind the great bee dieoff
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS / ^ | Wednesday, December 30, 2015 | Heather Leibowitz

Posted on 12/30/2015 3:47:03 PM PST by presidio9

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To: Fiji Hill
The writer lost me with the mention of Kwanzaa, a made-up “holiday” that almost no one celebrates.

Similar to MLK day. Everyone in my neck of the Michigan woods summarily ignores it.
41 posted on 12/30/2015 4:51:46 PM PST by farming pharmer ('Your work will warm you' - overheard in a Soviet gulag...)
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To: presidio9
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42 posted on 12/30/2015 4:54:41 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: presidio9

‘Sharing the same chemical properties as nicotine, neonicotinoids are neurotoxins that can kill bees off directly. These chemicals can also disorient bees and make it harder for them to pollinate and get back to their hives. ‘

All lobelia wildflowers and Indian tobacco contain nicotine... were bees disoriented since tobacco became a major cash crop in the 1600s and on where every plantation it was grown on also had numerous beehives ?


43 posted on 12/30/2015 4:54:52 PM PST by piasa
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

TGo #4 is this item on Monarchs from your knowledge or someone’s propaganda?

I don’t think there is any major evidence that GMO’s “helped wipe out 97% of Butterflies in America’s great Monarch migration”.

There were some problems with GMO corn that produced a toxin which harmed Monarchs but this apparently was due to several factors, not just one.

Monarchs took a helluva beating in their migration places in Mexico due to heavy snows which killed them by the millions. Providing more sheltering places in Mexico and along their migration routes would help preserve the Monarchs.

I’ve also noticed a great reduction in meadows and flower fields (manmade as versus natural) that are the feeding and breeding places for butterflies and some moths, as well as bees.

I’ve been feeding butterflies for decades with the Buddleia bush (Butterfly bush) and similar butterfly-attracting flowers. Very few monarchs this year but other bushes around the neighborhood had lots of them.

However, my Bumblebees are the size of golf balls and are great pollen carriers so they are taking up some of the pollination process from Honeybees.

Also, a lot of people cut clover grass which is a main feed flower for Honey bees, and wild Alfalfa is disappearing with roadside plants cuttings and a lack of local fields growth.

If every major housing project had a small to medium flower park in it, or on its periphery, you would notice a great increase in butterflies, moths (very endangered) and Honey Bees within a few years (they need a couple years to breed enough to replace normal loses).

As for DDT, one of the greatest science hoaxes of all times. Windmills (wind power) and Solar panels are killing millions of birds and anything else that fly in their area so the greenies are actually the killers of nature’s creatures, not conservatives and the “greedy” oil/gas industry.

This Spring, plant a few good butterfly/bee attracting flowers and help preserve some of Nature’s most beautiful and amazing creatures. And as for enivronwackos, tell them to shove the harmful and very expensive biofuels up their gas tanks.


44 posted on 12/30/2015 4:57:40 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MarchonDC09122009

source? thank you


45 posted on 12/30/2015 5:11:53 PM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: presidio9; MarchonDC09122009; Timpanagos1; Fungi; yoe; Yosemitest; SunkenCiv; All

Monsanto has a lousy legal history regarding treatment of neighboring farmers whose corn has been wind pollinated by Monsanto seed, and then Monsanto wants them to pay Monsanto. Especially troubling for those farmers who are trying to grow certified Organic. How do you feel about the efforts of some in Congress to make it ILLEGAL for foods to be labeled non-GMO? Do you feel that the rights of some of us to choose not to buy GMO foods should be legislated this way? Frankly, unless each GMO food is tested with multi generations of test animals, there is no way to know if there will be future dangers to our grandchildren. For corn, pigs would probably be a good test animal. Problems with future fertility among other issues could be a serious danger.

Regarding the bees, there are a number of contributing factors, but pesticides are very likely to be one of them. It does not help that commercial bees are crowded together, taken for long rough drives, overworked, feed a vitamin and mineral lacking diet of sugar water, and generally given the conditions that led to the Civil War and the rise of the labor movement (have fun with that one). But seriously, you cannot expect animals to be at their best if they are not well treated and well fed.


46 posted on 12/30/2015 5:15:27 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: crusty old prospector

“Do you happen to know what products contain neonicotinoids?”

Most of the Republican Party.


47 posted on 12/30/2015 5:17:39 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
You mentioned rape?

They decided to change their slogan this last April.

48 posted on 12/30/2015 5:21:48 PM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

2015 a banner year for Monarchs
http://texasbutterflyranch.com/2015/09/11/2015-a-banner-year-monarch-butterfly-migration-heading-our-way/


49 posted on 12/30/2015 5:37:36 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Marie

Here you go for starters:
http://www.academia.edu/3138607/Morphological_and_Biochemical_Changes_in_Male_Rats_Fed_on_Genetically_Modified_Corn_Ajeeb_YG_

http://www.academia.edu/3405345/Histopathological_Changes_in_Some_Organs_of_Male_Rats_Fed_on_Genetically_Modified_Corn_Ajeeb_YG_

http://www.ijbs.com/v05p0706.htm#headingA11

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jat.2712/abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21338670


50 posted on 12/30/2015 5:38:03 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

I agree with you.

Three ways to stop or limit this blight:

1. GMO labeling requirements
2. revoke all patents of genetic materials
3. outlaw GMO’s altogether


51 posted on 12/30/2015 6:00:50 PM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: Timpanagos1; Yosemitest

I’m will not doubt the probability of there being a honey bee shortage of sorts. Where we live the kept bees have doubled in 5 years.

But the point I’m trying to make is it appears the enviro whackos and a government is pushing this which automatically puts up multiple red flags which was why I mentioned the boy that cried wolf.

Some of the research I quickly did shows more than a couple sources that simply doubt there is a bee problem for the same reason I doubt it which is because the left is pushing it.

The damage that the left is doing when something real appears is to cause people to automatically disbelieve it.


52 posted on 12/30/2015 6:08:41 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: crusty old prospector

As soon as I saw climate change and the ravages of DDT I stopped reading. The elimination of DDT was because of an environmental hoax and MILLIONS of people have died from malaria because of that hoax. Look it up it is documented.


53 posted on 12/30/2015 6:10:53 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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To: redfreedom

It’s the varroa mites and varroa mites dud not exist in the US 30 years ago. Varroa can destroy a hive in a matter of weeks.


54 posted on 12/30/2015 6:13:16 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: MarvinStinson

“The Monsanto GMO ‘seeds’ already have insecticide in them.

THAT is what is killing the bees.”

NOT true.

GMO technology is a great thing. I used to farm just before GMO technology; and had to use very toxic insecticides on the corn I raised.
The GMO technology has eliminated that risk. Any fear of safety issues with GMO crops is based on lack of knowledge.

If people want to learn more about food production overall; check out Ray Bowmans (The Food and Farm Show) podcasts on ITunes.
He has guests that talk about GMO technology often; he also has a podcast that talks about the bee issue as well.


55 posted on 12/30/2015 6:21:33 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: HereInTheHeartland; MarchonDC09122009

“GMO technology is a great thing.”

For Monsanto and its bank account.

Not so much for those poisoned by it.

Monsanto’s Aspartame was “great” too.

For Monsanto and its bank account.

Not so much for those poisoned by it.


56 posted on 12/30/2015 6:31:40 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Fiji Hill

How is it the writer overlooks Festivus Dinner?


57 posted on 12/30/2015 6:54:11 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: presidio9
Yet many of these holiday favorites are endangered, because the bees they depend upon are dying by the millions.

That's to be expected. The life cycle of a bee is something like 30 to 45 days.

Mrs. Eagle has a small hive in our backyard. Of course we are always finding dead bees but the queen lays about a thousand eggs a day.

We live in a highly agricultural area of Northern California (soon to be The State of Jefferson) and we have cropdusters flying overhead all the time and we see, hear and smell the pesticides being sprayed all around us and her bees are doing fine.

Still not a fan of genetically modifying food so they contain pesticides and definitely not a fan of Monsanto suing family farmers and orchard keepers out of existence because of the cross-breeding of some of their GMO crops with natural crops.

58 posted on 12/30/2015 6:55:06 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Timpanagos1
There are no honeybees that are native to North America.

Yes, there are. Or there are bee species that were cultivated for their honey in North America. The Mayan Bee is one.

59 posted on 12/30/2015 7:02:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Timpanagos1
Remember, bees are insects and pesticides kill insects.

The selling point of GMOs is that the enable farmers to use less pesticide.

60 posted on 12/30/2015 7:06:09 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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