Posted on 12/23/2015 9:11:31 AM PST by mrbinga
WASHINGTON â Target category No. 275 from the nuclear target list for 1959 may be the most chilling. It is called simply âPopulation.â
For the first time, the National Archives and Records Administration has released a detailed list of the United Statesâ potential targets for atomic bombers in the event of war with the Soviet Union, showing the number and the variety of targets on its territory, as well as in Eastern Europe and China.
It lists many targets for âsystematic destructionâ in major cities, including 179 in Moscow (like âAgricultural Equipmentâ and âTransformers, Heavyâ), 145 in Leningrad and 91 in East Berlin. The targets are referred to as DGZs or âdesignated ground zeros.â While many are industrial facilities, government buildings and the like, one for each city is simply designated âPopulation.â
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Personally I've always been curious what the U.S.'s plan was for China in the event of a general nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Were they going to give them a pass and wait for them to make a move before hitting them or take them out along with the Soviets regardless of whether they provided any sort of Casus belli?
Of course the New York Times is NOT to be trusted... they write for liberal elites only.
“Counter-Value” versus “Counter-Force” targeting strategy.
As our weapons became more accurate, we moved away from counter-value (population) to counter-force (military and command and control).
The Soviets and China never were all that accurate with their nuclear delivery systems so they never really moved beyond counter-value.
IMO this sort of information should not be released into the public.
War is hell, and you do things you have to do. It shouldn’t be coffee table or water cooler talk subject matter.
The New York Times had no filter mechanism. This isn’t released to improve anything. It’s a precursor to trashing ‘our detestable’ actions during the cold war.
Hey, we won it NYT. Get over it!
I’m more curious about Russian and Chinese plans for US targets.
Can we have a new year’s resolution to stop writing the word “chilling” in every other headline?
The point of preparing to fight it was so that we’d never have to. Leftists, Soviet sympathizers, never understood that simple strategy.
How about "unexpectedly chilling?"
;^)
I’m sure the Soviets target list was full of grain silos and swampland.
See Hulka’s post 3. The NYT isn’t reporting anything new. Counter-value and counter-force have been known for decades.
These (the SIOP papers) “used to be” Top Secret.
But it is now Obola’s administration ....
Do the Fellow Travellers at the Slimes think for a second that the Soviets didn’t have a similar map of the United States? With New York as a high-priority first-wave target?
I’d tell you the chilling tale of a bottle of pinot grigio in my refrigerator, if I had one.
All of the targets in europe, africa, and asia know who they are.
If the US decided to launch an all out nuclear assault, it would mean that we are in a no win situation, and would be reduced to a scorched earth policy.
Think about this. We could literally return the world to the stone age in thirty minutes or less.
Their CEPs were large, so they used huge warheads to compensate. Military facilities, critical infrastructure and population centers.
Thanks for the mention TankNetter.
With our vile Left in this nation, we should hold on to our government secrets much better than we do.
Just because our policies from 25 to 50 years ago are dated, we should still play close to the vest on such issues.
That’s my take on it.
Well, the first nuclear bomb exploded in the MidEast will (now) likely be over top of Israeli citizens.
The second and third will be over top of Mecca. Then Medina.
Unfortunately it would seem the days of doing what you have to do in war are behind us. Well behind us.
Can’t argue with that. Hopefully some sanity will return.
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