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Trump's story on 9/11 Jersey City celebrations is finally put to rest | Editorial
Star-Ledger Editorial Board ^ | December 21, 2015

Posted on 12/22/2015 2:02:03 AM PST by SMGFan

The Star-Ledger's story Monday offering credible evidence that some Muslims in Jersey City celebrated after September 11 will no doubt be used by Donald Trump and his supporters to justify the ugly lies he has been telling.

So let's start there: This was the most thorough examination of his claims yet, and it proves beyond doubt that Trump was way off base when he claimed that he saw "thousands and thousands" of Muslims joining celebrations.

Remember: The reason Trump's comments are so offensive is that he is suggesting sympathy for terrorism is broadly shared among Muslims in America when in fact it is a fringe sentiment. It is the moral equivalent of smearing all white Americans for the actions of violent white supremacists.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Concurring bump....even a focus group of Muslims hand picked by Frank Luntz indicated around 1% of their co-religionists in the United States represent a physical threat to the country...with some thinking that number will rise because of Trump’s rhetoric.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tTGfdh0zLM


21 posted on 12/22/2015 5:14:56 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: SMGFan

I am always amazed and almost slackjawed at how rabid secular liberals have lately become the greatest protectors of Muslims in the US. But when you realize that everything a liberal does is far more about how any issue advances their narrative, then you can see that liberals and Muslims have found common cause.

Liberals see a liberal future for western society. Muslims see a Muslim future for western society. Liberals expect to be in charge of that future as do Muslims. What liberals don’t realize is that Muslims can be far more vicious, ruthless and violent far more quickly than any liberal can. Liberals have shown us that they expect the future society to be Pajama-boy and EBT-Julia. No comparison with Muslim rage-boy.

Trump and Cruz are popular because those who see this train wreck coming know that there may only be a very few opportunities to prevent it from happening.


22 posted on 12/22/2015 5:25:44 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: SMGFan

TRANSLATION: “Never mind the truth, Trump’s a fascist/bigot/mean-nasty-teabagger!”


23 posted on 12/22/2015 5:36:15 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: chiller
I used to subscribe to the Star Ledger way back in 1995. But that year, I also got C-Span for the first time. After watching the floor debate over the federal budget in the House of Representatives one afternoon, I read the Star Ledger's "news" article on the front page the following morning. It was so incredibly slanted, disingenuous, and biased against anything conservative or republican, that I cancelled my subscription that same morning.

For me, at the time, it was a real eye-opener. These days, I take every possible opportunity to show my kids and anyone else with a semi-functioning brain (i.e. non-liberals) just how biased, distorted, and dishonest the media really is.

24 posted on 12/22/2015 5:40:26 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: wbarmy
Trump probably did see the TV news and thought they were all in NJ.

Yep. And Hillary saw some western guy on an ISIS video and probably thought it looked like Trump.

25 posted on 12/22/2015 5:43:33 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

What makes you think Hillary ever saw an ISIS video? What makes you think she ever sat through an intel briefing? If the boss does not think they are worthwhile, why would she? Besides, they already know what is happening in the world and why, intel just gets in the way of their facts.


26 posted on 12/22/2015 5:47:24 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SMGFan

“So let’s start there: This was the most thorough examination of his claims yet, and it proves beyond doubt that Trump was way off base when he claimed that he saw “thousands and thousands” of Muslims joining celebrations.”

14 years...some memories aren’t quite as sharp, but two things happened that were CLEARLY DENIED by the media, and at this point there was some CLEAR LYING by the media going on.

The first that there were reports of CELEBRATIONS in New Jersey on major media outlets - something the news organizations, WITH THEIR OWN ARCHIVES denied. They simply LIED about it when they claimed it never happened.

The second is that THOUSANDS did celebrate in one place, but it was Arabs in the Middle East, the same ones we’re now importing by the MILLIONS. So, if they were over there celebrating the World Trade Center when it went down, thousands of them are NOW OVER HERE - so is there much difference between what happened here and what Trump claimed?


27 posted on 12/22/2015 6:18:09 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: PghBaldy
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad"

This is a powerful stat. Thank you. Let's translate this for our willfully blind, liberal friends, relatives or co-workers who wax outrage at Trump or anyone else who dares utter the truth about this so-called religion of peace:

One in four Muslim Americans wants to kill you. If you accept the lowest estimate of their numbers, 5 million, that would be 1.25 million people in our midst who have it on their hearts and minds to blow you up. To kill, maim, rape or disfigure you. Taking the highest estimate of their numbers, 8 million, a fourth of that gives us 2 million who'd cheer in their hearts, if not before a camera on a New Jersey rooftop, walking amongst us, working beside us.

28 posted on 12/22/2015 6:18:14 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: wbarmy

Yep. They celebrated in US.


29 posted on 12/22/2015 6:31:26 AM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: theBuckwheat

“Liberals expect to be in charge of that future as do Muslims. What liberals don’t realize is that Muslims can be far more vicious, ruthless and violent far more quickly than any liberal can.”

These liberals you highlight in your statement are Lenin’s classical useful idiots. They will be the first lined up at the edge of a ditch to get their brains blown out. And they will do so incredulously, crying their eyes out while pleading that they are one of them and don’t deserve this lowly fate. One can read about this useful idiot reaction in Russian literature that writes about Stalin’s purges.


30 posted on 12/22/2015 6:36:56 AM PST by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: SMGFan

First the libtard criticism against Trump was that muslims celebrating 9/11 never happened.

Now faced with overwhelming evidence that it did happen, the libtard criticism changes to claims that it never happened in the numbers Trump asserted.

Before it’s over they will be claiming that it depends on what the meaning of “celebrate” is.


31 posted on 12/22/2015 7:16:01 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: anton

If Trump commited a sin—it was only in inflating the numbers—maybe it wasn’t thousands but only hundreds! Even if it was dozens it was too many! Even 10 would have been disgraceful and anti-American. But, in truth, Trump is right more times than he is wrong.


32 posted on 12/22/2015 11:10:20 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

If someone said Bill Clinton raped eight women, George Staphylococcus would call him a a liar because it was only four.


33 posted on 12/22/2015 1:09:33 PM PST by anton
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