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To: entropy12; FreeReign
What depresses me are "conservatives" so eagerly willing to vote for forceful personality with a 26-year documented leftist/Democrat/big government past, over statesmanship with 26 years of authentic conservative substance.

YOU depress me, entropy. Not the polls you choose to link, but YOU and what you represent: good, desperate, angry people swept up in emotion rather than reason and ready to vote their country down the river because they hold wealth and fame in such awe.

38 posted on 12/21/2015 2:03:33 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny
What depresses me are "conservatives" so eagerly willing to vote for forceful personality with a 26-year documented leftist/Democrat/big government past, over statesmanship with 26 years of authentic conservative substance.

Which demonstrates your lack of discernment: Trump has not been a pure blooded Conservative, but he sure has been a Pro-American patriot all his life. Without Trump, Cruz would still happily be telling people that he never tried to "change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," and opposed deportation and even self-deportation as a solution to the illegal alien problem.

Instead, Cruz now lies to his supporters, claiming that he never supported legalization, even though everybody did, even Sessions, and especially himself, who advocated for it even after the gang of eight fight was over.

So holier than thou Cruz supporters sit there and regurgitate every nasty, exaggerated anti-Trump claim there is, but can't be honest enough to believe their own candidate when he tells them "I want immigration reform to pass... common sense immigration reform... that brings those who are here illegally out of the shadows."

Cruz represents everything wrong with the conservative movement, and why it so desperately needs house cleaning. From his double talk and betrayal on TPA, his lies about his wife being a mere "dissenter" on the globalist CFR, to his close associations with Dominionists and health-wealth prosperity preaching evangelicals, Cruz is a candidate for whom "snake oil salesmen" would be a promotion.

The Christian church in America is sick. The Dominionists and less than honest preachers and politicians who prey on conservative and evangelical fears for a quick buck are just a symptom of the diseases that infect them. Conservatism, in its current state, has a significant leadership vacuum-- which is the real reason why we constantly see 10, 12, 13 people running for President at a time, because they all sense the emptiness of the conservative space.

Trump, a Pro-American, is filling that vacuum in a way Ted Cruz never will, and he's doing it without the support of the billionaires, the special interests, and the same dead and dying "conservative" establishment. He's single handedly changing what is and isn't acceptable to talk about, moving the window of discourse with the sheer power of his personality... something Ted Cruz, Rush Limbaugh, and all the talking heads have not been able to accomplish despite being around for years.

Hopefully Trump crushes this malaise for good, giving us the opportunity to create a new party with a new leadership base, no longer dependent on the same old stale intelligentsia to tell us what to think and do.

40 posted on 12/21/2015 2:28:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Finny; entropy12
What depresses me are "conservatives" so eagerly willing to vote for forceful personality with a 26-year documented leftist/Democrat/big government past, over statesmanship with 26 years of authentic conservative substance.

Add to that Trump's record on legalization amnesty which isn't good.

41 posted on 12/21/2015 2:29:10 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Finny

I am overjoyed to finally see a candidate appear on the scene who is unabashedly America First! I was born and raised in a country where patriotism was a big thing. Coming to America in my teens, I kinda missed that no holds barred patriotism. I know Trump is not pure as wind driven snow, and I am not 100% in tune with him or for any other candidate for that matter.

But I am won over by the fearless display of patriotism by Trump. He is the only one who will stop us getting screwed by China and others. He is the only one who talks about deporting ALL illegals, first, and then allow those whom we want and need to come back legally. All others are relentlessly pushing the cheap labor express, legal & illegal (via path to legal status).


52 posted on 12/21/2015 2:46:47 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016! http://shop.donaldjtrump.com/articles.asp?ID=57)
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