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So how can we tell when Ted Cruz is lying?
WashPo ^ | 12/19/15 | Jenny "the conservative" Rubin

Posted on 12/18/2015 6:44:55 AM PST by VinL

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) defended his role in the 2013 immigration battles Thursday, telling reporters at a rally here that the Republican "establishment" was misleading people about why he introduced an amendment to penalize workers in the United States illegally.

"Let me use a Las Vegas analogy, from poker," said Cruz. "It's called 'calling their bluff.' Listen, the Democrats and the establishment Republicans who supported the Gang of Eight, they claimed they cared about the people who were here illegally. And so I introduced an amendment that made anyone here illegally permanently ineligible for citizenship. That amendment called their bluff, because it revealed that the members of the Gang of Eight were hypocrites."

To put it differently, Cruz told multiple members of the media and his colleagues that he really wanted legalization but that was not true. It was a lie because he did not want legalization or any other bill. That's the excuse?

In listening to Cruz's remarks in 2013, one cannot miss how sincere and earnest Cruz sounds. He was so convincing that multiple reports at the time portrayed him as trying to reach agreement on legalization. He gave no wink, no hint he was really a virulent opponent of immigration reform. He sure got a couple of members of the Gang of 8 to think he wanted a bill. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is quoted as saying Thursday, "You can only take people by their words. His words were clear that passage of that amendment would improve the chances of passage of the bill. He made that clear and he made both on the floor and off the floor."

The take away, then, is that he is an extraordinary liar ..either then in convincing people ...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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One can always tell -just by the headline - when Jennifer has issued her weekly smearing diatribe against Ted Cruz.

Oh, and for those who are pursuing the theory that the Gop-e and MSM are now in the process of promoting Cruz in order to take down the Donald, Jennifer and the Wash Po (Fox News, NRO, WSJ, et al) evidently haven't received the memo.

They want to bring them both down--- and, they don't care in want order.

1 posted on 12/18/2015 6:44:55 AM PST by VinL
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To: VinL

Oh good. Jennifer Rubin columns always give Cruz haters chills up their leg.


2 posted on 12/18/2015 6:47:00 AM PST by skeeter
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To: VinL

Like Jeb, Rubin is a Democrat.


3 posted on 12/18/2015 6:47:47 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: VinL

When I see this headline about Hillary Clinton I’ll consider reading anything from the comPost without a barf bag handy. Not holding my breath....


4 posted on 12/18/2015 6:49:15 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: VinL

Jen Rubin is a complete waste of time, she’s a Washington Cartel troll.


5 posted on 12/18/2015 6:49:17 AM PST by gwgn02
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To: VinL

Jen Rubin is a complete waste of time, she’s a Washington Cartel troll.


6 posted on 12/18/2015 6:49:17 AM PST by gwgn02
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To: VinL

Alternate question. How do so-called journalists decide which liars they are going to provide covering fire for?


7 posted on 12/18/2015 6:50:04 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: VinL

Compare him to Obama if you want to compare to the new lying standard.


8 posted on 12/18/2015 6:50:13 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: VinL

Wow. Politicians say words to get their bills and amendments passed. The first time in history. The Gang of Eight Bill was atrocious and Rubio partnered with four of the most disgusting democrats in the Senate and three of the most worthless, backstabbing Republicans to pass it. Cruz’s amendment would have made it significantly better and more honest, but the amendment lost. That act (and the insider GOPs votes against it) killed the bill when it got the House. Cruz was instrumental in making sure the damn thing never became law.

But Cruz is the bad guy and Rubio the good guy in this scenario?


9 posted on 12/18/2015 6:50:22 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: VinL

Mind blown. What does she have to say about real snakes in the grass?
I think Rubio is taking himself out.
Those sundance kind of theories never made sense to me.


10 posted on 12/18/2015 6:51:01 AM PST by libbylu (Trump - BICKERING LIKE A SCHOOLBOY. (I said it before Cruz did)!!!)
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To: VinL

Start with an easier one... Try to figure out when hilLIARy is lying.

Answer: all the time.

Trying to spot Cruz “lying” (not bluffing- lying) would, naturally, be much much harder.


11 posted on 12/18/2015 6:53:01 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: VinL

She might as well change her name to Jen Rubio.


12 posted on 12/18/2015 6:56:27 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: skeeter

All the media is now joining in the pile-on to destroy Cruz. Meanwhile they have already crowned Her Royal Hipness as Queen of America.


13 posted on 12/18/2015 6:57:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Patriarchal binary all original-equipment breeder and White-privileged crusader.)
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To: VinL

Im a Trumpalo. But this story is total bull. Cruz never lied about this. Jennifer Rubin is shillng for the GopE flavor of the day.


14 posted on 12/18/2015 7:00:08 AM PST by Brasky (You miss every shot you never take.)
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To: I want the USA back

All the media is now joining in the pile-on to destroy Cruz.


It’s just the beginning...they are praying Cruz is the nominee...


15 posted on 12/18/2015 7:00:35 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: VinL

Looks like the gloves are off, that was a hard hitting article.


16 posted on 12/18/2015 7:03:29 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: ilgipper

Cruz floated his amendment only to prove the amnesty gangs hypocrisy. It’s why he used their own language while promoting his amendment, which gave them everything they claimed to want but denied illegals the opportunity for citizenship (& the vote), the true intention of amnesty.


17 posted on 12/18/2015 7:05:52 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Feckless

Hillary has more tells than a female Wednesday afternoon book club.


18 posted on 12/18/2015 7:06:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: I want the USA back

All the media is now joining in the pile-on to destroy Cruz. Meanwhile they have already crowned Her Royal Hipness as Queen of America.
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Yep, the media is now issuing the same anti-Cruz talking points that a number of the GOPe operatives have been endlessly promoting here on Free Republic.


19 posted on 12/18/2015 7:06:29 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: VinL

So how can you tell when Barry Barack Soetoro Hussein Obama is lying?

WHEN HIS LIPS MOVE!


20 posted on 12/18/2015 7:08:07 AM PST by Rock N Jones (s)
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