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Improved Laws
12/15/2015 | MosesKnows

Posted on 12/17/2015 2:25:20 PM PST by MosesKnows

Which Law is Better?


A NRA ad suggested that enforcing existing laws is the most productive way to reduce gun crimes. That seemed good advice, unheeded, but good advice nonetheless.

Other than immigration and guns are there other areas where our representatives discuss new legislation before enforcing existing legislation.

Wouldn't enforcing existing laws be a good first step whilst wrestling with the difficult legislative process leading to improving our laws.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: banglist; improved; laws
Doesn't, or perhaps I should say, shouldn't, enforcing existing gun law trump writing new laws?
1 posted on 12/17/2015 2:25:20 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

Maybe we can determine that Hussein is not a NBC.


2 posted on 12/17/2015 2:27:28 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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How about jail for treason and using a private server for top secret e-mail messages? Scooter Libby thinks the law is tough enough already. It just needs to be enforced uniformly.

Oldplayer


3 posted on 12/17/2015 2:31:33 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: MosesKnows

Very weird suggestion: Enforce the Constitution.


4 posted on 12/17/2015 2:36:51 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: MosesKnows

Most existing gun laws target law abiding citizens. They do little or nothing to stop criminal behavior. And, we definitely don’t need any new laws.


5 posted on 12/17/2015 2:45:43 PM PST by Klaatu Barada Nikto (Liberty is not a Loophole)
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To: Klaatu Barada Nikto

The laws the NRA wants enforced are the federal laws against possession by a felon.

We have gang members and drug dealers who are legally disabled from possessing firearms by virtue of previous criminal convictions who are picked up by local law enforcement for various reasons thousands or tens of thousands times a year.

There’s a federal law against this, with a five-year mandatory sentence, yet they are almost never turned over to the US attorneys for prosecution, because the DOJ doesn’t consider it important.

Oddly enough, it’s this very same fairly small group of people who are responsible for almost all of the violent stranger crime in this country. Locking them up would make everyone else safer, but the feds simply have no interest in it.

It’s not like these are complicated cases - are you a felon? did you have a gun? Slam dunk.


6 posted on 12/17/2015 3:09:19 PM PST by jdege
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To: MosesKnows

Unfortunately the courts often give less than the max for crimes committed with a firearm, aggravated felony possession etc.

Punitive sentences need to be consistently levied.


7 posted on 12/17/2015 3:38:16 PM PST by traderrob6
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There’s a federal law against this, with a five-year mandatory sentence, yet they are almost never turned over to the US attorneys for prosecution, because the DOJ doesn’t consider it important.

These are mostly referred by city/state police to the feds on people who they pretty much have d!@k on but want to hammer anyway.

8 posted on 12/17/2015 5:01:27 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: spintreebob

Thread winner!

I find it ironic, the message, coming from a (supposed) 2nd A. supporter, whom backed Reid and pressed for ‘common sense gun control’.

Yet, they still wonder why I return their membership drive mailer wrapped around a cinder block w/ a big “FU” written upon.


9 posted on 12/17/2015 6:17:59 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: spintreebob
Enforce the Constitution

We elect representatives who take an oath to uphold and defend the constitution more than to enforce It.

The Constitution is not about what the people can and cannot do.
The Constitution is solely about the legislative powers granted and how the government is to function within those powers. The Constitution is actually quite a neat and tidy system, which works best when followed.

Madison in Federalist No. 45:

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.

A more modern expression from the general rules for configuring Packet Filtering could be juxtaposed with Madison's observation :

All that is not expressly permitted is prohibited.

10 posted on 12/18/2015 6:36:30 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: MosesKnows

How about enforcing the CONSTITUTION???


11 posted on 12/18/2015 6:38:07 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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