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To: nathanbedford

Here’s the difference, Trump was never a politician nor a sitting senator with a professional track record. Furthermore, that’s a rather ambiguous statement. Maybe he feels that his plan is more humane?

The difference is with Cruz is that there is no ambiguity, he was outright against deportations on record in late 2013, long after the gang of 8 bill was dead, and this was reconfirmed in march 2015. Furthermore, Trump was harsh on illegals in his 2000 book ‘The America We Deserve’, while Cruz worked for W. Bush, who appointed john roberts and tried to ram immigration reform down our throats, remember?


22 posted on 12/16/2015 7:30:29 PM PST by fg566asd
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To: fg566asd
I'm not at all clear why it is more "humane" to forcibly remove tens of millions of illegal immigrants than it is to have them self deport. I am not at all clear why it is more humane to put millions of people through a useless exercise, sending them out of the country only to let them return. Would Trump expose millions of people to a twenty-first century trail of tears to no purpose?

While Donald Trump was enriching himself by engaging in corrupt crony capitalism, Ted Cruz was fighting the fight with Senator Sessions to stop the Gang of Eight Bill.

One can argue that Ted Cruz has modified his positions in the area of immigration which is no more important to you than it is to me. How has he done so? He has moved from no citizenship to no legal status. He has moved from increasing legal immigration and H1B visas to reducing even eliminating immigration and eliminating the latter.

Cruz argues that these positions were taken as lines of defense against Rubio's Gang of Eight Bill but even if that exclamation is discounted as subterfuge in an election year, these are not basic ideological rebellions against a lifelong commitment to conservatism. These are not the equivalent, as many on these threads insist, of a change of party, a flip on abortion, and countless other ideological reversals done by Trump as easily as changing gears in your auto.

In no sense would Cruz ever justify his changes in policy as matters of self-interest but Trump blatantly does so. One can but conclude that his actions are utterly selfish and there is no reason to believe that Trump's lifelong practice will suddenly change when he is beyond our control and becomes the most powerful man in the world as well as one of the richest. At that time we will be utterly defenseless to another rogue chief executive controlling the inflow of returning illegal aliens according to his whim or definition of "terrific."

God knows where Trump will flip-flop next if he gets into office or what will become the flavor of the week that tickles his ego.

To bet the ranch that Donald Trump will continue to maintain his robust posture on immigration-now effectively no more robust than Cruz'-is to bet the ranch on one man's ego whose biography shows it to be mercurial.

How much more prudent to go with a candidate whose default position is not his own ego but honest conservatism.


23 posted on 12/16/2015 7:47:40 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: fg566asd

Trump donated BIG bucks to the dems. I mean he wanted Hillary to have a front pew at his wedding. So newbie if you want a free pass do not expect Trump’s not so distant past to be exposed


31 posted on 12/16/2015 8:03:19 PM PST by katiedidit1
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