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To: fg566asd
I'm not at all clear why it is more "humane" to forcibly remove tens of millions of illegal immigrants than it is to have them self deport. I am not at all clear why it is more humane to put millions of people through a useless exercise, sending them out of the country only to let them return. Would Trump expose millions of people to a twenty-first century trail of tears to no purpose?

While Donald Trump was enriching himself by engaging in corrupt crony capitalism, Ted Cruz was fighting the fight with Senator Sessions to stop the Gang of Eight Bill.

One can argue that Ted Cruz has modified his positions in the area of immigration which is no more important to you than it is to me. How has he done so? He has moved from no citizenship to no legal status. He has moved from increasing legal immigration and H1B visas to reducing even eliminating immigration and eliminating the latter.

Cruz argues that these positions were taken as lines of defense against Rubio's Gang of Eight Bill but even if that exclamation is discounted as subterfuge in an election year, these are not basic ideological rebellions against a lifelong commitment to conservatism. These are not the equivalent, as many on these threads insist, of a change of party, a flip on abortion, and countless other ideological reversals done by Trump as easily as changing gears in your auto.

In no sense would Cruz ever justify his changes in policy as matters of self-interest but Trump blatantly does so. One can but conclude that his actions are utterly selfish and there is no reason to believe that Trump's lifelong practice will suddenly change when he is beyond our control and becomes the most powerful man in the world as well as one of the richest. At that time we will be utterly defenseless to another rogue chief executive controlling the inflow of returning illegal aliens according to his whim or definition of "terrific."

God knows where Trump will flip-flop next if he gets into office or what will become the flavor of the week that tickles his ego.

To bet the ranch that Donald Trump will continue to maintain his robust posture on immigration-now effectively no more robust than Cruz'-is to bet the ranch on one man's ego whose biography shows it to be mercurial.

How much more prudent to go with a candidate whose default position is not his own ego but honest conservatism.


23 posted on 12/16/2015 7:47:40 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

That’s Trump’s point to argue, the fact is that Cruz was openly against deportations and even continues to make no mention of deporting non-criminal illegals from his website.

Cruz also flipflopped on TPP. Cruz also took Rand Paul’s side against nsa spying and isolationism, while Reagan supported nsa spying and was an interventionist.

Trump’s core issues, are trade, the border, and terrorism, going back to his 2000 book, ‘The America We Deserve’; he’s solid on those issues.


28 posted on 12/16/2015 8:00:51 PM PST by fg566asd
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To: nathanbedford
Would Trump expose millions of people to a twenty-first century trail of tears to no purpose?

It would probably help if you didn't twist Trump's statements on this matter. When you pick up on words like "some," "the few," the "special cases," the "merit system" in Trump's statement, it suddenly gives you the data you need to understand what Trump is talking about.

No, it's not perfect. Trump has never defined who exactly would be allowed to return. But at the end of the day, mass deportation and a legal process for aliens to return is better than what Cruz supported for 3 years (now denying): which was, for illegals to "come out of the shadows" and sign up for legal status, all 40 million of them. Of course, most probably wouldn't even bother if there was any perceived cost.

29 posted on 12/16/2015 8:02:20 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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