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Is Donald Trump going off the liberal deep end?
The American Thinker ^ | December 15, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/16/2015 12:50:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

There has been a big question mark about the sincerity of Donald Trump's views, given that he has spent 99% of his adult life supporting liberal positions, including amnesty for illegal aliens,and saying at one point that Hillary Clinton was a really good secretary of state.

But he was said to be changed when he ran for president earlier this year. He spoke rousingly against illegal aliens and against Muslim immigration.

But all of a sudden he has taken a leftward tack,perhaps figuring, erroneously,that this is the best way to outflank Ted Cruz. Trump has actually criticized Ted Cruz for failing to support ethanol mandates....If Donald Trump can't cut ethanol, how can he cut any form of corporate welfare?...He throws out the old line of getting rid of "waste,fraud,and abuse," but every candidate says that. In fact, Trump never talks about cutting the budget. Our debt is slowly destroying the country,and he has no plan to reduce deficits.

Even more alarmingly, Trump has criticized Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia...

...Trump's attitude seems to be that he likes affirmative action, regardless of the results...Can we really afford to have a president appointing more supreme court justices who support such discrimination?

Racial discrimination against whites and Asians, also known as affirmative action, is just fine with Donald Trump. On Meet the Press..."I lived with it for a long time. And I've had great relationships with lots of people. So I'm fine with it."

Lastly, Trump blasted Ted Cruz for acting like a "maniac" in his fight against the establishment GOP in the U.S. Senate...As Mark Levin noted,he seems to be labeling all of us who supported Cruz's efforts to stop Obamacare and Obama's illegal amnesty and Obama's runaway spending as maniacs as well. Even Rush Limbaugh has said that Trump's tack to the left raises "red flags."......

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; biggovernment; democrat; liberal; stimulus; trump
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The one looking “establishment” - Uniparty-ish - is Trump.

that’s the dumbest statement in your thread.. maybe any thread


21 posted on 12/16/2015 1:33:18 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

22 posted on 12/16/2015 1:42:21 AM PST by Bobalu (Even if I could take off, I could never get past the tractor beam!)
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To: Luircin

Great post!
Well said my FRiend!


23 posted on 12/16/2015 1:44:15 AM PST by Bobalu (Even if I could take off, I could never get past the tractor beam!)
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To: Salamander

“Bonk, bonk the Trump haters on the head !”


24 posted on 12/16/2015 1:45:29 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

It’s the cognitive dissonance, you know. Revenge of the La Raza Rickbots.


25 posted on 12/16/2015 1:47:30 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Thank you.

: )

Judging from the cognitive dissonance I’m witnessing from Trump’s supporters, I’ll stand by my assessment of him as a Big Government guy (uniparty, establishment) as based in truth (not to mention all that “inconvenient” information available out there to back it up).


26 posted on 12/16/2015 1:58:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think what you’re seeing is people who are just getting tired of your constant Trump-bashing.

Maybe you can start a hobby.

Stamp collecting, perhaps?


27 posted on 12/16/2015 2:01:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

My facts = your “bash.”


28 posted on 12/16/2015 2:01:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Your facts are not THE facts.


29 posted on 12/16/2015 2:05:33 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Then, counter them.


30 posted on 12/16/2015 2:06:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Your goal is clear. When Election Night in Nov 2016 comes, you said Trump will make do without your vote.


31 posted on 12/16/2015 2:09:05 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am a Cruz guy.
But I would be okay with Trump.
No fears.


32 posted on 12/16/2015 2:19:45 AM PST by glasseye
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t have an answer to this.

just remember who did this to us.
it was Bush43 who gave us Obama.
‘a stable and prosperous Iraq’. ya sure.


33 posted on 12/16/2015 2:24:08 AM PST by RockyTx
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To: Salamander

The skipping stone routine.

But officer, the way I do it is easier on the roadway surface. The wheels are touching pavement only half the time...


34 posted on 12/16/2015 2:29:56 AM PST by BlueDragon (TheHildbeast is so bad, purty near anybody should beat her. And that's saying something)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

4,200 anti-Trump posts, but we still don’t know who you are for.


35 posted on 12/16/2015 2:32:35 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Luircin
I support Ted Cruz who went to town but stayed faithful.

Donald Trump has never been faithful to any principle greater than himself and spent these years engaging in crony capitalism in a corrupt system to enrich himself. Now we are to believe that he has come to Jesus.

Well, his road to Damascus never went as far as ethanol, or Scalia. I think we will see more and more of this betrayal of conservative principles by Donald Trump. If he ever gets into the Oval Office he will feel no constraints at all. Will he double the ethanol subsidies? Will he appoint Justices who find Scalia as repugnant as Trump does? Assurances that his conversion is real and permanent are not enough in a candidate who is a mere flip flopper on issues of convenience but Donald Trump is a flip flopper who is a narcissist. There is no reason to believe that once converted he will stay converted.

One can argue that Ted Cruz has modified his positions in the area of immigration which is no more important to you than it is to me. How has he done so? He has moved from no citizenship to no legal status. He has moved from increasing legal immigration and H1B visas to reducing even eliminating immigration and eliminating the latter. Cruz argues that these positions were taken as lines of defense against Rubio's Gang of Eight Bill but even if that exclamation is discounted as subterfuge in an election year, these are not basic ideological rebellions against a lifelong commitment to conservatism. These are not the equivalent, as many on these threads insist, of a change of party, a flip on abortion, and countless other ideological reversals done by Trump as easily as changing gears in your auto. In no sense would Cruz ever justify his changes in policy as matters of self-interest but Trump blatantly does so. One but conclude that his actions are utterly selfish and there is no reason to believe that Trump's lifelong practice will suddenly change when he is beyond our control and becomes the most powerful man in the world as well as one of the richest.

To equate these changes in policy in these two men is to engage in rank relativism. At worst Cruz has changed to accommodate a change in public opinion on issues which are not fundamental or ideologically crucial-albeit immigration is a crucial issue but not an ideological issue as applied in this context. At best Donald Trump has changed to feed his ego. At worst, Cruz has changed on two or three issues but Donald Trump has flipped on everything and is still flipping today and betraying a populist mentality not a conservative mentality when he supports ethanol or attacks Scalia. God knows where Trump will flip-flop next if he gets into office or what will become the flavor of the week that tickles his ego.

To bet the ranch that Donald Trump will continue to maintain his robust posture on immigration-now effectively no more robust than Cruz'-is to bet the ranch on one man's ego whose biography shows it to be mercurial.

How much more prudent to go with a candidate whose default position is not his own ego but honest conservatism.


36 posted on 12/16/2015 2:35:36 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The one looking "establishment" - Uniparty-ish - is Trump.

LOL! You just pull stuff out of your butt and post, donchya? LOL!

37 posted on 12/16/2015 2:43:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: nathanbedford

Well said.


38 posted on 12/16/2015 2:44:40 AM PST by kik5150
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The one looking "establishment" - Uniparty-ish - is Trump.

Which is why they love him so much. Right?

Logic fail.

39 posted on 12/16/2015 2:48:30 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: nathanbedford
I support Ted Cruz who went to town but stayed faithful. Donald Trump has never been faithful to any principle greater than himself and spent these years engaging in crony capitalism in a corrupt system to enrich himself. Now we are to believe that he has come to Jesus.

It's a reasonable concern, Nate. Here's why I am pro-Trump (albiet, slightly more pro-Cruz):


40 posted on 12/16/2015 2:49:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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