Posted on 12/15/2015 9:51:08 AM PST by Red Steel
You would have to vet no one if you just shut down immigration entirely and most freepers would be fine with that. We don't need to continue flooding the country with more dependent democratic voters.
Well ok then I guess we have to give up since absolutely nothing can be done.
We should also concentrate on what he says. In some cases, they are the blathering of an ignorant child. And a large part of America supports for PRESIDENT this person. Chilling.
Or instead of living in Trump's cloud cuckoo land you can come back down to the real world with the rest of us, realize that Trump's promise is asinine, and concentrate on coming up with achievable solutions that we can implement and which will make us as safe as possible.
But in Trump land where is the fun in that?
And what about people who say they are coming as tourists, students, on business, and the like? How do you prevent Muslims from sneaking through that way? Or would you cut off all foreign entry into the U.S. period as the only way to prevent Muslims from entering?
“I’m still trying to figure out how temporarily banning immigration has anything in common with the internment of US citizens during WWII.”
Its a diversionary act of the left. Otherwise known as moving the goalposts to sustain an argument.
Immigration controls and restrictions have nothing to do with internment camps.
“The fact we can’t even call it for what it really was proves bow unjust it was. They were Concentration Camps.”
Road apples.
“According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
The first stage being “demoralization”. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.”
—KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
—Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS—and the KGB)
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Congratulations, you’re a KGB success story.
“Internment makes the bitter pill tolerable. The fact that prisoners weren’t flagrantly abused or neglected doesn’t change the fact either.”
Yes, it most certainly does change your KGB “fact” into something else entirely. The government should have made the internees whole after the war—at least those that turned out not to be spies—but the idea of internment was correct.
“The whole thing is a horrific violation of habeas corpus and a terrible precedent.”
Precedent? Really? Are you actually unaware that Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the war between the states?
That’s pretty basic.
It was generally effective in preventing sabotage. Do you oppose the internment of the Nazis and Fascists, or just the Japs? And how do you feel about the Japanese internment of the Americans and British?
Internment of Japanese and Germans probably saved a lot of lives.... both theirs and those not interned.
One incident could have resulted in mob rule.
I get sick of people bashing the US for Japanese internment.
The big issue to me is that their property needed to be protected and returned after the war.
“...DO NOT LET HISTORY BE CHANGED...”
I’m not. Merely relating it as I remember reading/learning about it.
Thank you for pointing out something that I didn’t know, I will do some research on it.
What about them? Who cares if they stay home? We should not be educating our enemies in the first place and business does not require travel as Amazon proves. Education does not require presence either as far as that goes.
No country can survive the erasure of their borders.
You want to apply a civil war, with open rebellion at hand to people who were rounded up solely based on their ethnicity?
I’m sorry, THAT is road to apples.
Other than you strawman argument about the KGB I fail to see a point. Although I’m sure character assassination and ad hominem attacks are a staple of theirs.
There is no difference between what the British did to the Boers and FDR’s round up of the Japanese. The only thing that FDR didn’t do was neglect the internees to the point of starvation. A low bar to jump if you’re only saying he avoided committing crimes against humanity.
I don't insist, I just recognize that Cruz can't win in the General doubtful that he could win the Primary without a total collapse or some other disaster befalls Trump.
You sound like Beck with your constant diatribe and his audience is suffering because of it. So is yours.
I oppose the internment of Americans.
Remember these? They’re kinda relevant to the topic:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, ...
“...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, ... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
“In all criminal prosecutions [summary condemnation included], the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.”
IF THE LEFTISTS USED THE SAME ARGUMENTS Y’ALL ARE USING TO JUSTIFY THE SAME TREATMENT AGAINST YOU & YOURS IN VIOLATION OF THESE RIGHTS, Y’ALL WOULD START CIVIL WAR II _TOMORROW_.
Yes, I’m aware of the issues & dangers involved.
Yes, I’m aware of “their” doctrines & philosophies.
I contend that strict adherence to our founding principles, as manifest in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, are our _best_ tactics to winning the existential conflict.
I contend that we’re where we are now, facing these particular threats, _precisely_ because of tacit abandonment thereof.
I don't know if I think it was "good", exactly. But I understand it, I agree with the reasoning of Korematsu, and I would have interned any visa holders from Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, and Pakistan who did not depart within 15 days in September 2001, as I posted here repeatedly.
Foreign tourists contribute hundreds of millions of dollars a year to the economy. End that and you're going to lose tens of thousands of jobs and quite a bit of tax revenue. No country can survive the erasure of their borders.
Nobody is talking about erasing borders. But you want to make them impenetrable to everyone from outside the country. That doesn't help our survival either.
I don’t think Trump is going to intern anybody. He’s going to kick them out. And it cannot happen soon enough.
Declare a war against an identifiable enemy and we’ll talk about matters of engaging in war.
And I think Cruz takes Iowa and South Carolina and comes in near the top in New Hampshire. Disaster enough for you?
You sound like Beck with your constant diatribe and his audience is suffering because of it. So is yours.
And you prove my theory that you can tell a Trump fanatic, but you can't tell 'em much.
We’ve got people here agitating for internment.
Deportation is only applicable to non-citizens.
And there’s this elephant in the room: the malicious can simply deny any disqualifying factors when officially asked. Stupid plan - eject the cooperative & law-abiding, while ignoring the fallacy of asking the malicious if they’re malicious.
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