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UPDATE: Cruz overtakes Trump in latest Loras poll
The Dubuque Telegraph-Herald ^ | December 14, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 12/14/2015 11:52:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

UPDATE:

Republican presidential hopeful Sen. Ted Cruz, of Texas, has overtaken businessman Donald Trump with seven weeks remaining before the Iowa caucuses, according to the latest Loras College Poll, the results of which were released today.

Cruz topped Trump, 29.7 percent to 23.4, as the first-choice candidate among the 499 likely Republican caucus participants surveyed Dec. 7-10.

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and Florida Senator Marco Rubio were the only other candidates with double-digit support as a first choice — Carson at 10.8 percent and Rubio at 10.6.

Conservative Iowa Congressman Steve King and noted Iowa evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats endorsed Cruz recently....

(Excerpt) Read more at thonline.com ...


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To: SeekAndFind

RE: There is no national primary.

But isn’t the national poll a good indicator of how the primaries will go IN GENERAL?


As a snapshot, yes. Of course if you’re a supporter of any other candidate other than Trump, they’re worthless.


21 posted on 12/14/2015 12:01:35 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: iowamark

Being in Iowa, a question. I know that Cruz will get his troops to the caucuses. But
what are the chances as you see it of Trump having success in getting enough out to be a
factor in the caucuses? He has huge turnouts but that isn’t the same as going to a caucus.


22 posted on 12/14/2015 12:01:42 PM PST by deport
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To: SeekAndFind

Not at all.


23 posted on 12/14/2015 12:01:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: iowamark
The 3rd poll showing Cruz leading in Iowa!

Actually, the fourth - Monmouth, Bloomberg, Fox and this one. Quinnipiac has it as a virtual tie.

24 posted on 12/14/2015 12:01:56 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

Actually, who is leading nationally really is irrelevant at this point


Unless your candidate was the one up by 20+ points.


25 posted on 12/14/2015 12:03:04 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: mrsmith

lol


26 posted on 12/14/2015 12:04:11 PM PST by Eddie01 (uh oh)
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To: SeekAndFind

Either Cruz or Trump will beat Hillary in a landslide.


27 posted on 12/14/2015 12:05:29 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: CA Conservative
No. Rarely have the national polls this far out from the primaries been even remotely accurate in predicting the eventual outcome

And Iowa's right on the money? Seriously? They can't pick a winner.

28 posted on 12/14/2015 12:08:34 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: SeekAndFind
But isn’t the national poll a good indicator of how the primaries will go IN GENERAL?

Not necessarily. Primary voters tend to be more active and knowledgeable politically. Random phone calls are not going to reflect that. I think the state by state polls are a little more accurate.

Also there is the fact that the early primaries have a ratio system for choosing delegates and the later primaries are winner take all. So where you are leading could become very important.

29 posted on 12/14/2015 12:09:14 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not really, not at this stage of the race. In Early December of 2008, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani were neck and neck. McCain was polling in the high single digits and low double digits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2008_presidential_primaries

In December of 2012, Newt Gingrich was up by 5 or 6 points over Romney and Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul were neck and neck going for the third slot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_Republican_Party_2012_presidential_primaries


30 posted on 12/14/2015 12:09:53 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Funny, the cumulative polls here at this point in time tell us that they are both behind Hillary.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

Rubio seems to poll the best one on one against Hillary.


31 posted on 12/14/2015 12:10:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no national primary. Cruz does very well vs Hillary. If we want someone we know will beat Hillary, we should draft Algore, but we want conservatism to win. That leaves Trump out.


32 posted on 12/14/2015 12:10:50 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: Kenny

The last two presidents began their road to two terms by winning the Iowa caucuses.


33 posted on 12/14/2015 12:10:53 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: iowamark

Remember the Des Moines Register poll was all crap because they hate Trump. Three polls later...


34 posted on 12/14/2015 12:12:48 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: SeekAndFind
We already know that Cruz is leading in Iowa. The question is who’s leading NATIONALLY? And more importantly, among the GOP leaders, who matches up BEST against Hillary.

Well, since polling results are the only available measurement, most here in FR may not like the answer.

35 posted on 12/14/2015 12:13:33 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. Momentum will decide how it goes. The problem is the GOP front loads primaries. This could work in Trump’s favor when all the Howard Stern fans show up to vote.


36 posted on 12/14/2015 12:14:20 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: iowamark
The 3rd poll showing Cruz leading in Iowa!

Get it straight. The polls showing Cruz leading are biased. The polls showing Trump winning are valid.

Anyway, Cruz* lead in IA will only grow, since Trump*s percentage has remained static for 5 months, while Cruz* percentage has skyrocketed in the past several weeks, and he has a great ground game.

The national polls will change when Cruz wins IA --especially if Cruz wins big.

37 posted on 12/14/2015 12:15:06 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: deport

It is very hard to predict who will actually show up on February 1. Trump does not have a strong ground organization as of yet. Rand Paul has a good organization but small numbers.


38 posted on 12/14/2015 12:15:37 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: SeekAndFind

“And more importantly, among the GOP leaders, who matches up BEST against Hillary.”

Sorry S&F, no sale! This is how we got all the a$$holes as GOP presidential nominees since Ronald Reagan left office. Scew this idea that we need the one “that can win” because that’s always been the GOPe’s anointed looser. The two Booshes we actuallly did get for president, were both Globalist disgraces to the office and only served to bring in the $hit that the RATs put up.


39 posted on 12/14/2015 12:19:39 PM PST by vette6387
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SeekAndFind

The question is who is leading in Iowa, NH, SC, NV, FL...etc.


40 posted on 12/14/2015 12:20:46 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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