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To: RoosterRedux; LS; Catsrus; HarleyLady27; Jane Long; entropy12; I Hired Craig Livingstone; ...

Wow!!! Let’s see all the Cruz supporters go into hiding. Same polling firm that they were crowing about in Iowa last week. So it’s one of the other for them but getting drubbed 41-14 is pretty hard to excus. Let’s repost this poll 100 times and pretend we are Isara.


50 posted on 12/14/2015 9:43:39 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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LOL


58 posted on 12/14/2015 9:46:09 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: usafa92
Let’s repost this poll 100 times and pretend we are Isara.

LoL.

66 posted on 12/14/2015 9:56:04 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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Newsie and Cruzers who echo their talk say Trump’s ceiling is at a certain percentage and no higher that it won’t go up further than that. Wishful thinking. It’s more like that Cruz has the low ceiling. Cruz is a young man whose time is not now. It maybe 10 or 20 years from now, but the country has to change some more before he can become president. The R voters seemed to recognize this. Trump can move the country to the right. Trump is the specialist that’s needed.


71 posted on 12/14/2015 9:59:30 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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LOL...yes, please; do keep reposting this!


129 posted on 12/14/2015 11:41:06 AM PST by nopardons
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We get a lefty tease from the Dem PPP pollster.

A PPP tweet.

@ppppolls “Our Iowa poll coming tomorrow finds by a 27 point margin that Trump voters think Japanese internment was good”


136 posted on 12/14/2015 1:21:46 PM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: usafa92
Well, let me state the Cruzers' argument:

To them it's not about national polls, or even about state polls that are 2 months out. It's all about IA. Their argument is that Cruz plans to 1) "Break The Donald's air of invincibility" in IA, then 2) siphon off enough support to win SC, then 3) once people see that Cruz can in fact win the nomination, all the conservatives will switch to him.

They may be right. We'll see.

Trumpsters point to the overwhelming lead Trump has everywhere EXCEPT Iowa, and argue that IA is the exception, not the barometer. They (correctly) have cited past elections where the IA winner was a total washout everywhere else.

Cruzers respond that Ted has a powerful grass roots network, endorsements out the wazoo, and a very traditional approach to winning.

Trumpsters counter that The Donald has money out the wazoo, a new media presence unlike any ever seen, overwhelming leads in almost all of the state polls.

Cruzers say (with some evidence) that Carson's voters will drift toward Ted).

Trumpsters say that he can attract a zillion new "non-traditional" voters, especially in crossover states.

Until we have four caucuses/primaries under our belt, no one can say definitively who is right. Once we have IA, NH, NV, and SC, we should know the winner. If it goes past SC with Trump winning 3 out of 4, I'd say it's over. Obviously, if Trump squeezes out the tiniest win in IA, it's over. If Cruz wins IA and SC, it's a race.

At that point the two biggest question marks will be, 1) "How long will the GOPe/drive-by media lay off Ted---when will they start dropping serious dirt bombs (many of which could damage him with the evangelicals)?" I don't know what those are. But we never do, do we? Who out there knew of W's DWI going into the final week of the campaign? Who knew of Herman Cain's indiscretions with women?

And 2) "Once Carson, Bush, Christie, Kasich, Paul and the rest are actually gone, do their voters move---and if so, to whom?---or just stay home?" I think of the Carson people who have gone to Cruz, more than half are permanently gone to Cruz. But I think a large portion just don't like Trump, but would vote for him if it's him or Rubio/Hillary.

You'll note I haven't talked much about Rubio. His only strategy is to stay alive, siphoning votes from the GOPe candidates---Fiorina, Kasich, Christie, and Bush---long enough for Ted to seriously damage Trump. If he can split the conservative/non-establishment voters, Rubio still has a shot, and that would absolutely elect Hillary.

139 posted on 12/14/2015 2:53:35 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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