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New video shows beginning of Waco biker shootout
CNN ^ | December 12, 2015 | Michael Martinez, Nick Valencia and Jason Morris

Posted on 12/13/2015 4:50:59 AM PST by don-o

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1 posted on 12/13/2015 4:50:59 AM PST by don-o
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To: don-o

my laptop sucks. by the time the thing loads, the adverts are shown and you finally get to the main course, you’re bored of watching already.


2 posted on 12/13/2015 4:54:12 AM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: don-o

I bet there is no audio. It would be interesting to know if the “first shots” were off camera.


3 posted on 12/13/2015 4:56:52 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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I think the CNN voice-over was a little hyped up in terms of what this looked like to me. Of all the players in the thing I could see, only one of the bikers I could see had a gun, and it was pointed at the ground most of the time.

My conclusion is there was a fight between two groups of bikers. That’s pretty much it.


4 posted on 12/13/2015 5:22:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: dp0622

I use Firefox with AdBlock extension. It has helped a lot with filtering ads.


5 posted on 12/13/2015 5:29:57 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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If they were black, no way so many would have been held and charged.


6 posted on 12/13/2015 5:34:27 AM PST by boycott (--)
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It shows about 3 or 4 people getting involved with the fight, everyone else fleeing.


7 posted on 12/13/2015 5:36:02 AM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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It shows about 3 or 4 people getting involved with the fight, everyone else fleeing.

That is the common denominator in all the vids that I have seen.

8 posted on 12/13/2015 5:55:18 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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I use Firefox. Have to get AdBlock extension. thanks.


9 posted on 12/13/2015 5:58:44 AM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: don-o

I’m SO glad there’s a gag order in place to prevent the media from getting hold of prejudicial videos and tainting the jury pool.


10 posted on 12/13/2015 6:03:32 AM PST by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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The guy getting his head stomped died of two pistol round looked like Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, the peace loving, non-affiliated, bike enthusiast. The film shows him attacking a Cossack from behind and then losing that fight. You can see the skinny guy who shot in the patio video running away in this video.


11 posted on 12/13/2015 6:41:47 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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a bunch of thugs got together for a rumble. Why is this story national news?


12 posted on 12/13/2015 7:18:27 AM PST by stellaluna
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Yeah, it’s mainly people trying to get away after they realize what’s happening. There’s one guy with a gun but it’s pointed to the ground and he runs away, too. Since it’s only showing into the patio, we still don’t know what happened in the parking lot. Even the reporter says it started because someone “nearly” getting hit by a bike but that story has never been pinned down - someone ran over someone else’s foot, the second act of a restroom fight, argument over a parking space, etc.

I want CNN to air the video we saw of the cop planting evidence in the parking lot under a white vehicle.


13 posted on 12/13/2015 7:58:40 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Why is this story national news?

Several reasons. Lots of discussion on this board. (keyword: waco).

If you are truly interested, you may find your answer there.

14 posted on 12/13/2015 8:13:26 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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Between the AP report and this video; they bring up more questions than answers.

This drip drip drip of info is frustrating. Let’s just see it all fer cryin’ out loud.


15 posted on 12/13/2015 9:16:56 AM PST by Boomer
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You’re right...in fact this video clip seems to be taken from the reverse angle the original inside clip was taken from.

It also looks like Jesse Rodriguez initiated the assault that ended with his own life being taken...although that still looks like murder to me.


16 posted on 12/13/2015 9:45:01 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: don-o

“...Police and prosecutors are silenced in the case by a court gag order, and a grand jury is weighing further charges....”
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I suspect that this video is also part of the Waco “authorities” SELECTIVE leak of the MANY videos they have. And it’s been released to CNN ... which can be depended upon to push the local Waco prosecutor’s line.

Notice how CNN says “police and prosecutors are silenced in the case by a court gag order”. Really? And here I thought it was the PROSECUTORS WHO SOUGHT THAT GAG ORDER. Of course, the handful of folks who still watch CNN would never know that from CNN.


17 posted on 12/13/2015 2:15:45 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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Please describe Jesse Rodriguez and where in this short clip of video he appears. Thanks.


18 posted on 12/13/2015 2:17:27 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: bgill

I want CNN to air the video we saw of the cop planting evidence in the parking lot under a white vehicle.
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Was that the video from the business across the street which showed an individual dropping as he fled the scene (apparently shot in the back as he ran)? That video showed a LEO come by later and drop something next to the individual’s body (a “throwdown”?)


19 posted on 12/13/2015 2:21:03 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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There is a big step between tackling somebody and getting a bullet in the face. The second Cossack to engage with him when he and his intended victim were on the ground had a gun in his right hand. I don’t think the first Cossack even knew Rodriguez had been shot when he punched him the last couple times.


20 posted on 12/13/2015 2:37:44 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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