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Posted on 12/11/2015 1:17:56 PM PST by Hojczyk
(WASHINGTON) — The men in the U.S. military’s most dangerous jobs care little about political correctness or gender equality. And they have a message for their political leadership.
When they are fighting in the shadows or bleeding on the battlefield, women have no place on their teams.
In blunt and, at times, profanity-laced answers to a voluntary survey conducted by the Rand Corp., more than 7,600 of America’s special operations forces spoke with nearly one voice. Allowing women to serve in Navy SEAL, Army Delta or other commando units could hurt their effectiveness and lower the standards, and it may drive men away from the dangerous posts.
An overwhelming majority of those who agreed to respond to the RAND survey said they believe women don’t have the physical strength or mental toughness to do the grueling jobs.
Some of the broader conclusions of the survey, taken from May through July 2014, were disclosed by The Associated Press earlier this year, but the detailed results and comments written by respondents had not been released.
“I weigh 225 pounds, and 280 pounds in full kit, as did most of the members of my ODA (a 12-man Army Green Beret unit),†one respondent said. “I expect every person on my team to be able to drag any member of my team out of a firefight. A 130 pound female could not do it, I don’t care how much time she spends in the gym. Do we expect wounded men to bleed out because a female soldier could not drag him to cover?â€
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How is this different from any other unit?
We are seeing a political agenda being played out irregardless of its consequences.
Does Ashton Carter’s decision override all of this?
It wouldn’t surprise me. Dictate! That’s the Obama Way.
What?
How insensitive of them.
Next thing you know, they will not want diaper changing stations in the new Abrams tanks.
Don’t worry Obama doesn’t have enough time left at the White House to implement this
It’s all about extending the draft to women.
I was with armored cavalry in Vietnam. I know it would have hampered our combat effectiveness. In fact, I would say it would have made it impossible. And the infantry had it a lot even rougher.
Not surprising. You need good group chemistry on these missions. Romantic rivalries, guys thinking with their other heads, not good for business.
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Putting mixed squads of males and females in front-line, high-risk confrontation with enemy forces is a certain recipe for disaster.
At a very basic level, this greatly complicates the dynamics of how the members of the squad interact with each other, and no amount of political correctness or gender sensitivity training is ever going to overcome some, or even any, of the objectionable traits of such a forced juncture of twisted logic.
Females are not by nature or nurture, born killers, and only very few men ever acquire the necessary mindset and skills to carry out the job competently and well, even on the short term. And this is not a life anyone should be committed to for years at a time. In fact, the life expectancy once battle is engaged may be measured in minutes if not seconds. That some do survive is more a testimonial to sheer luck than to the sure and swift application to the task at hand of skills and judgment of almost superhuman nature. There are just too many variables to anticipate every one. Given enough time, everybody’s luck eventually runs out. Even “last man standing” may be carrying mortal wounds.
Good one. LOL
One of the kills by Carlos Hathcock was a female NVA who put a cage over the head of captured GI’s and put a rat inside. Fellow soldiers had to listen to them die.
Imagine what the Muzlims would do to a captured female, besides just (fill in the blank) her to death.
If, and I mean IF some woman somewhere could pass the standards (no lowering for gender), then she might be allowed to join. The special forces have those standards for a reason - every single one of them. My husband was a firefighter for over 20 years and very few women could pass the standards they set. A person’s life is dependent on each and every one being able to live up to the standards every single day.
Special ops is not attainable for 99% of the men they are the cream of the crop. Letting women join for political reasons is the possible death knell for these elite forces - literally.
This is the ONLY angle remaining to fight this.
But, eventually, the politicians will water down the qualifying standards for special operations, and will "gender norm" them.
That said, ANY woman who can pass BUDS as it is today, is qualified.
Unquestionably.
But, there is not a woman in the world today, or in the history of mankind, that can.
There are women who are fit enough. And there are women who are strong enough.
But those two do not appear together in women.
Putting women in certain military positions obviously will put men in danger. It’s not fair and it’s not equal. Men have value too and they are just as important as women. Men are sons, husbands, fathers, brothers, grandsons, cousins and friends. Electing a (certain) woman as commander-in-chief might or should I say “will” put all our soldiers, male and female, in danger as well as our citizens. We need to see that common sense is a equalizer, common sense is fair, not everyone is the same, not everyone is equal, not everyone has the same abilities. Yet, everyone has value and our men, soldiers, sailors, warriors have as much value as women. Stop the insane social experiments, individuals are more important to society then insane societal experiments.
And she is capable, she was probably born a he.
let them serve on obama’s security detail..... and his family too....
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