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Is Donald Trump The Horseman of The Republican Apocalypse?
Daily Wire ^ | 12/10/2015 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/10/2015 10:52:58 AM PST by conservativejoy

The desperation grows.

Donald Trump has now reached his highest point in polls, garnering 35 percent in the latest CBS/New York Times poll. The second place contender, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) trails by a longshot at 16 percent; establishment favorite-nouveau Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) clocks in at just 9 percent, while former establishment favorite Jeb Bush is down at 3 percent.

Establishment Republicans have now entered a state of open panic, with Karl Rove writing, "Donald Trump would be the dream opponent for the Democratic Party. We'll see in the next four months whether that matters to Republicans." The establishment is so desperate that they're now hoping for a one of two solutions: a Mitt Romney comeback or a brokered convention.

The Return Of The 2012 Near-King has been long rumored but little believed. Huffington Post reports that the window is closed for such a run by Romney, thanks to filing deadlines and fundraising barriers. But reporters Sam Stein and Scott Conroy say that Republican strategists are praying for Romney to intervene with Republican voters. One strategist said, "He would be, more than anyone else, the game-changer on the ground in New Hampshire." A former Romney aide stated, "He probably won't endorse right away. But I could see him feeling a moral obligation to do so if Trump still is around."

Here's why that won't matter: Romney lost in 2012. While he still retains popularity among New Hampshire voters, that popularity is not transferable , certainly not to a fellow establishment candidate. Trump's support base will not crumble, and it certainly won't crumble if Romney endorses someone perceived to be significantly more moderate than Trump. Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA) told the Huffington Post, "Remember, [Romney's] father wouldn't endorse Goldwater. It is important what the establishment figures do to a nominee if the candidate is too far to the right."

But if Romney mimics his father, that won't stop Trump , it will just drive Trump to run third party. Sean Trende at Real Clear Politics now posits that the most likely scenario in 2016 is a brokered convention: "My most likely scenario is still that no one wins a sufficient number of delegates to claim the nomination."

What would happen under such a scenario? Horse trading among the various delegate groups, deal-cutting, corruption in back rooms , all the stuff the Trump base hates most.

Which means he'll run third party if he's not the nominee. Which could effectively end both the 2016 presidential campaign as well as the Republican Party itself. If 25 percent of the Republican base bolts thanks to unease with Republican back-scratching, that will be the beginning of the end. So far, the Republican base's unease has been confined to choosing outsider candidates within the Party. Once they leave, however, the chance for a viable third party begins to grow. And after eight years of Obama, another four years of Hillary Clinton will be a crushing blow to the Republicans, since Congressional Republicans will be unwilling/unable to stop her agenda, the same way Congressional Republicans have been unable tos top Obamacare, the Iran nuclear deal, executive amnesty, Obama's military cuts, or anything else.

Trump could still lose. The GOP could back someone like Ted Cruz; the establishment could unify behind one candidate. Trump could collapse. But if none of those things happen, if Trump doesn't win the nomination outright, and if we end up with a brokered convention, we could be looking at Republican Armageddon. If so, the GOP has brought it on itself. Trump is just the horseman.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; gopbackstabbing; gopdirtytricks; gope; gopselfdestructs; gopselfemulation; goptreachery; immigration; muslim; terrorism; trump; trumpwasright; war; wot
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1 posted on 12/10/2015 10:52:58 AM PST by conservativejoy
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To: conservativejoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_Jdts5rL0


2 posted on 12/10/2015 10:54:03 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: conservativejoy

What Trump should have said is that he would halt ALL immigration for four years, not just for a particular group. He may yet do so.


3 posted on 12/10/2015 10:57:41 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: conservativejoy

I have absolutely no doubt that Trump will go 3rd party if the GOP screws him over. And about 90% certain that he will do it if he does not become the GOP candidate. He is too committed, too much in this to win, and has nothing to lose. Except maybe “a little bit of money” and he doesn’t care about that.


4 posted on 12/10/2015 10:58:18 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: conservativejoy

“Donald Trump will be the nightmare opponent for the Democratic Party.

They will have nightmares and soil their depends at night and during the day.

Trump will equal the Reagan victory and destroy the rats in Congress and in most governor races.


5 posted on 12/10/2015 10:59:08 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama has groomed CAIR to be THE voice of Islam in the USA as a dangerous political force in the USA)
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To: WENDLE

If “If” and “Buts” were candy and nuts— what a fine world this would be. Trump has wiped out all competition. He is now the “republican “ party and these hangers on Rino, Gope, Rove types are finished. Go Trump. These other candidates will soon have NO money. It is is a waste of good dollars. Tell Rove his cut from zero donations = zero .


6 posted on 12/10/2015 11:00:23 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: conservativejoy

*sigh*
OK yes... he is

It sux for us if he is nominated

Thanks for the heads up - we know you have our best interests in mond


7 posted on 12/10/2015 11:01:16 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: CMB_polarization

I agree,exactly what he should have said. But he included visitors which could be really messy.
A pox on all those in DC for shirking their duties.


8 posted on 12/10/2015 11:01:17 AM PST by libbylu (Trump - BICKERING LIKE A SCHOOLBOY. (I said it before Cruz did)!!!)
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To: conservativejoy

Guys like Rove have become the enemy.


9 posted on 12/10/2015 11:01:43 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: conservativejoy

Huffington Post Poll (not exactly a Trump kind of place)

Head to head match-up

Trump 45 percent
Hillary 40 percent

Republican Primary
Trump 41 percent
no one else even comes close.


10 posted on 12/10/2015 11:02:18 AM PST by euram
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To: CMB_polarization

great idea


11 posted on 12/10/2015 11:02:42 AM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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12 posted on 12/10/2015 11:04:44 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: conservativejoy

The GOPe has done a good job of destroying the Republican Party. They are the ones Trump is trampling on. I hope he runs the GOPe into the Democratic Party where they belong.


13 posted on 12/10/2015 11:06:27 AM PST by pallis
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To: conservativejoy

If the Republican party takes the nomination from Trump I will throw my total support to the 3%. Too old to fight but not to old to support. I am so very sick of what politicians are doing/have done to this country and very angry that so many of the citizens actively support this or stand by and watch.


14 posted on 12/10/2015 11:09:40 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: conservativejoy

If Trump and Cruz teamed up and broke away the GOP would have to hope that Carson or Bush could catch on fire. Of course there is also Rubio but I think he is really the weakest of all.

The GOP is close to suicide because they really, really do not want to win.


15 posted on 12/10/2015 11:09:58 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I support anything which diminishes the Muslim population.)
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To: conservativejoy

Sorry, liked Romney well enough, but Mittens failed. Possibly on purpose to serve the interests of the GOPe. What he says or whom he endorses carries no weight at best and more likely negative weight (i.e., Mittens endorsing someone else would likely HELP Trump).


16 posted on 12/10/2015 11:10:58 AM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: conservativejoy

Once again Carl Rove reveals that he is either clueless or a liar. To say that Trump would be the dream opponent to the wimp liar Hillary is nonsense. But Marco Rubio sure would be considering the many fronts on which he can be attacked.


17 posted on 12/10/2015 11:11:47 AM PST by Dante3
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To: bigbob

Or he will sweep the primaries and the GOPe will go third party. That is what they are threatening to do, run their own candidate and spend a billion dollars of Wall Street money to prevent a Trump election.Remember how you could not go to any site on the net without seeing Baraq Hussein or look any direction in the city or pas any billboard on the highway in 2008? It will be much worse in the Anti Trump campaign by the GOPe section of the Democrat Party. The Democrats will, of course be spending their own billion for the same purpose.


18 posted on 12/10/2015 11:15:05 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: conservativejoy
The GOP must die. It is more important than stopping Democrats.

We need a second party in America.

19 posted on 12/10/2015 11:17:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: arthurus

Might be that not even those billions will help. There’s a lot of pissed Dems as well as us.


20 posted on 12/10/2015 11:18:05 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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