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To: RitaOK; going hot; V K Lee; hoosiermama; RoosterRedux; JoeSeales; onyx; Jane Long; ...

RitaOK, I was thinking about your earlier question about Cruz and I had a bit of an epiphany. At least it was to me.

I pinged everyone because I would like to get your thoughts and didn’t want to start a vanity.

Anyway, I was thinking about the differences between Cruz and Trump and I think I have come up with why Trump is more appealing to some of us than Cruz is.

Trump LOVES America while Cruz loves the idea or ideal of America.

Cruz loves the constitution, the story of the founding of America, it’s history and what it stands for. He loves the ideal of freedom and the republic.

On the other-hand, Trump LOVES America and it’s people. He loves what America has given him and what it promises for all of us. He loves the military and police forces as her protectors, he loves the cities and what we have all built together throughout our history, and he sees her as Reagan’s shining city on a hill.

Cruz almost feels like an outsider that appreciates what America is but it isn’t really apart of it.

While Trump is very much apart of our country and expects us all to take ownership and responsibility for her.

I guess it would boil down to Cruz intellectualizes the American experience while Trump lives it.

Does this make any sense to any of you? I would love to know your thoughts.


37 posted on 12/08/2015 9:28:58 PM PST by Amntn
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38 posted on 12/08/2015 9:30:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Amntn

Yes, you’re spot on and I believe your very insightful!

It makes perfect sense to me, too. I see Trump as a kid from Jersey with the instincts of a street fighter, mixing it up with all races and nationalities, exposed very young to labor and the working around blue collars and in church on Sunday, for mom.

To me you’re saying Trump is as smart as anybody, but he has a way of hiding it in the way he talks on the stump, but he has actually broken a sweat, was a fine athlete, very competitive, extremely instinctive.

All my life I was taught to appreciate instinct. He’s got it and I like it. A lot! I also believe that is what THE ART OF THE DEAL is, actually.

Cruz probably is a striver. Seems he didn’t all the time have a happy home growing up, and then lost a sister. Somewhere in there he became a devout Baptist.

I don’t know much or imagine much about Cruz, except for his knowing how to throw red meat to the base in his actions in the senate, to prepare the folks, in a positive fashion, for his presidential run.

He sure knew how to lay the ground work for attracting the base, but then along came TPA, to bring TPP, and then the HB1-Visas for the establishment types, and the blasted quadrupling of foreign Visas for high skilled foreigners, all which has caused him to go back into the weeds to un-do.

I think you nailed it all.


39 posted on 12/08/2015 9:49:26 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Amntn

Now that you expressed it so succinctly, even I can understand it!

To me Trump is just plain more likable than Cruz. Trump has become so successful in the real world main street economy is exactly because he has that personality to attract people to him. His business partners like him, his employees adore him, his family loves him. On the other hand, senator Cruz can count his friends in the 100 member senate on the fingers of his left hand.

Go Trump!


41 posted on 12/08/2015 10:26:47 PM PST by entropy12
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To: Amntn

It makes a whole lot of sense.


44 posted on 12/09/2015 2:03:28 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: Amntn

I like Ted Cruz but he is a lot younger than me and Donald Trump. I don’t think he has the perspective that comes with age yet. For instance Cruz is wanting to only extend the moratorium to certain muslim countries but that would not as far as I can tell include Saudi Arabia. The radicalized shooter’s wife came from Saudi Arabia so it would not have stopped the San Bernardino shooting.

Trump is right we need to stop all Muslim immigration and as far as I am concerned forever. They just don’t play well with others and they never assimilate into our society because their religion won’t let them.


46 posted on 12/09/2015 7:07:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Amntn
Cruz almost feels like an outsider that appreciates what America is but it isn't really apart of it. While Trump is very much apart of our country and expects us all to take ownership and responsibility for her. I guess it would boil down to Cruz intellectualizes the American experience while Trump lives it.

I think you're onto the main thing. The advantage of Trump being his age is that he grew up in a great era when the Constitution was still our rule of law and the nation was proud, relieved and grateful after WWII, and a great General was our president. It was indeed a Christian nation in its principles and to a large extent in social behavior.

Everything started to change and become eroded after Eisenhower, especially in the 60s onward, with only a break from the destruction during the Reagan years.

Cruz has never been able to actually live in and experience a nation that could reflect its Founding documents and ideals.

You are correct in seeing that he has his face pressed to the window, whereas Trump has been inside the building, and he wants it back for everyone.

50 posted on 12/09/2015 9:48:30 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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