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To: VinL

I’m probably going to get bashed for this (great opener, huh?) but here goes:

I disagree with people who are saying that they “liked Cruz until now, but this changes everything” and words to that effect. I realize how important the issue of Muslim immigration and/or refugees is to our security. I’m not saying Trump is wrong and Cruz is right. But isn’t there any room for discussion at all? Could Trump’s plan be overkill, sort of like the way the TSA treats everyone as a terrorist at the airport checkpoints? We can’t distinguish any Muslim who is not a threat? Again, I’m not attacking anyone’s position, but, less than 24 hours after Trump announced a very bold proposal, everyone here is already in perfect lockstep and ready to dump Cruz for not getting on the bandwagon?

Let’s say for the sake of discussion that I accept that Cruz is wrong. Even so, I’m not going to dump him as a candidate because he is wrong on one policy question. It’s not like he’s taking a completely idiotic liberal position of letting ‘em all come in and shouting racist at the opposition.

Please, I’d like to hear some reasoned argument.


205 posted on 12/08/2015 10:31:40 AM PST by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter
Let’s say for the sake of discussion that I accept that Cruz is wrong. Even so, I’m not going to dump him as a candidate because he is wrong on one policy question.

That*s my position, but without a doubt, Cruz has hurt himself here.

You can look up polls of Mohammedans in various countries, and overwhelming majorities support the imposition of Sharia and other horrors.

So there is plenty of justification for not just a moratorium, but a permanent ban on Mohammedan immigration.

211 posted on 12/08/2015 10:34:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: JewishRighter

Shalom.

Cruz is notorious for his history of being on the wrong side of immigration issues. As a nation, we are committing suicide by letting this continue. We need a full stop and regrouping to focus on those already here.

Ask yourself if Israel should grant all ‘Palestinians’ in other countries the right to emigrate to Israel. A nation should have its own borders and not be reprimanded for securing them by any method. We aren’t an unkind nation. We give billions in foreign aid and established trade to help people in their own countries already.

The notion we must have unlimited, unchecked, and rampant immigration is the path to national suicide.


239 posted on 12/08/2015 10:47:57 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: JewishRighter

The thing is, what I’m seeing expressed from some Cruz supporters on this thread is not that they’re bothered by the fact that they disagree with him on one issue. It’s that this is a particularly important issue. It’s one thing to disagree with your candidate on some minor point, and another to disagree with him on an issue which you view as fundamental.

There’s also the concern about what this shows regarding his ability to stand up to pressure from his donors and from politically correct attacks.


317 posted on 12/08/2015 11:52:52 AM PST by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: JewishRighter

Please, I’d like to hear some reasoned argument.

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I’m afraid you are really, really limiting your response pool.


380 posted on 12/08/2015 2:40:26 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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