Posted on 12/08/2015 6:39:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Donald Trump has again succeeded in setting the terms of political debate, this time by calling for a temporary halt to the admission of all Muslims from abroad, whether as immigrants or as visitors ("nonimmigrants" being the technical term). Everyone's outraged, of course, but this is a topic that needs to be addressed head-on.
First of all, it's important to underline that Congress can exclude or admit any foreigner it wants, for any reason or no reason. Non-Americans have no constitutional right to travel to the United States and no constitutional due-process rights to challenge exclusion; as the Supreme Court has written multiple times, "Whatever the procedure authorized by Congress is, it is due process as far as an alien denied entry is concerned."
What's more, while the president doesn't have the authority that Obama has claimed, to let in anyone he wants for any reason (under the guise of "parole"), he does have the statutory authority to keep anyone out, for any reason he thinks best. From 8 USC §1182:
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate (emphasis added).
So in considering Trump's statement, the question is not whether it would be lawful but whether it would be good policy. (Barring the return of American citizens from abroad simply because they're Muslims is ridiculous and illegal, but it doesn't seem that Trump actually said that, despite the media's trumpeting of that point.) As usual, Trump is playing the part of your crotchety Uncle George holding forth on politics at the Thanksgiving dinner table. But the reason his careless and sloppy immigration commentary resonates is that no one else in public life is willing to address issues that worry -- and, at this point, frighten -- people. If "respectable" politicians refuse to even talk about the real problems caused by mass Muslim immigration, then a larger and larger share of the public will turn to carnival barkers unafraid of elite disapproval.
Under current trends, the United States will admit about 1 million new Muslim-origin immigrants over the next decade, plus hundreds of thousands of Muslim guest workers and foreign students. In addition, something like 50,000 young people from Muslim immigrant families turn 18 in the United States each year. Many of these individuals are productive citizens who pose no threat to our republic. Iman the supermodel, television's Dr. Oz, Fareed Zakaria, Coke CEO Muhtar Kent -- whatever their merits or lack thereof, their Muslim origins pose no threat to us. Some are even politically conservative American patriots, such as our own Reihan Salam.
But large Muslim populations, continually refreshed by ongoing mass immigration, are a problem. Polling suggests between a quarter and a third are not attached to the principles of the Constitution, supporting things such as sharia law over U.S. law and the use of violence against those who insult Islam. Nor is this merely hypothetical; Muslims account for only about 1 percent of the U.S. population but account for about half of terrorist attacks since 9/11. That means Muslims in the United States are about 5,000 percent more likely to commit terrorist attacks than non-Muslims.
So what to do? A strictly religious test for immigrants or visitors, as Trump seems to suggest, while perfectly legal with regard to foreigners seeking entry, would obviously run against the grain of American political culture, and rightly so. Whether you believe that Mohammed flew to heaven on the back of his horse is no more anyone else's business than whether you believe in the virgin birth or the transmigration of souls.
But while Islam is indeed a religion, it is also more than that -- and it is the political aspects that concern us. As Andy McCarthy noted last week, Islam's non-religious element -- sharia -- "involves the organization of the state, comprehensive regulation of economic and social life, rules of military engagement, and imposition of a draconian criminal code." That program of Islamic supremacism is fundamentally incompatible with the Constitution, and we should strive to minimize the number of people living in our country who hold such beliefs. As Walter Russell Mead wrote the other day, "a cosmopolitan and tolerant society can't thrive if it admits millions of migrants who hate and despise cosmopolitan values."
The narrowest solution would be to restore the principle of "ideological exclusion" to U.S. immigration law. With the end of the Cold War -- which too many imagined to be the End of History -- we eliminated the legal bar to enemies of America who were not actual members of terrorist organizations or card-carrying members of totalitarian political parties. Specifically, the law says the State Department is prohibited from keeping a foreigner out "because of the alien's past, current, or expected beliefs, statements, or associations, if such beliefs, statements, or associations would be lawful within the United States." In other words, since 1990 we have applied the First Amendment to all foreigners abroad seeking admission to our country. The only exception is if the secretary of state "personally determines that the alien's admission would compromise a compelling United States foreign policy interest" -- note this exception is only for a "compelling . . . foreign policy interest," not a domestic-policy one, like limiting the number of residents who support killing apostates.
Even President Obama has paid (grudging) lip service to the ideological -- as opposed to the violent -- threat. In his Oval Office speech Sunday night he said "Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to . . . speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity." So why aren't we keeping out people who adhere to such interpretations?
Such screening would be stricter for people coming as immigrants than for nonimmigrants (visitors). So long as he's not a terrorist, it doesn't matter too much to us if a Turkish businessman attending a trade show in Atlanta supports the killing of homosexuals. But for people who want to become permanent (or even long-term "temporary") residents, it does matter. At the very least, we should be asking things like whether they support freedom of religion and speech, regardless of content, even if it is insulting to other faiths. Of course people could, and would, lie, but the very fact that such a question is asked would send a message about what we expect of people hoping to live among us -- that believing in Islamic supremacism is disqualifying even if you yourself do not use violence.
But large-scale immigration of non-violent Islamic supremacists also facilitates violence, by forming and sustaining neighborhoods that serve as cover and incubators for jihad attacks, however unintentionally. Muslim immigrant neighborhoods, and their mosques and other institutions, fit Mao's observation regarding the peasantry's role in China's war against the Japanese: "The people are like water and the army is like fish." DHS's chief intelligence officer told the House Select Committee on Intelligence in 2007, "As previous attacks indicate, overseas extremists do not operate in a vacuum and are often linked with criminal and smuggling networks -- usually connected with resident populations [in the U.S.] from their countries of origin (emphasis added)."
The Somali community in Minneapolis is a prime example. Established through refugee resettlement, and continually expanded and refreshed by more resettlement (nearly 9,000 Somali refugees were admitted last year) as well as follow-on chain migration, it has been the source of dozens of recruits for Al Shabaab and ISIS, and dozens more supporters, even though most community members aren't necessarily terrorists or even fellow-travelers. Just this summer, a Somali graduate of a Minnesota high school died fighting for ISIS in Syria. As the Washington Times noted, immigration "is having the unintended consequence of creating an enclave of immigrants with high unemployment that is both stressing the state's safety net and creating a rich pool of potential recruiting targets for Islamist terror groups."
And many of those recruits are native-born, having grown up steeped in Islamic supremacism and alienated from the values of their native land. In Europe this has been the main threat; and here, the killers at Fort Hood and Chattanooga and Jihad Dad in San Bernardino were U.S.-born. It is often claimed that the United States is uniquely effective at assimilating the children of immigrants from the Islamic world. But these incidents suggest skepticism. While our Muslim population is indeed more prosperous, more dispersed, and more ethnically heterogeneous than Europe's, it seems likely that the main difference is simply that it's so much smaller. The EU has four or five times more Muslim residents than the United States; France and Germany each have at least 50 percent more Muslims than our country (roughly 4.5 million each versus 3 million here).
Even with our smaller Muslim population, we have trouble keeping track. The FBI is reported to have nearly 1,000 active probes into ISIS supporters in the United States. Of those, 48 suspects are under intensive, 24/7 surveillance, straining the agency's capacity. Senator Dan Coats, on the Select Committee on Intelligence, said just those 48 represented "a big resource drain. . . . Almost overwhelming." If we continue current immigration policies, we can get rid of the "almost" -- in France, due to the numbers, "The services are overwhelmed," according to one terrorism expert.
There's really no way around it: Continuing to admit 1 million Muslim immigrants per decade will translate into more attacks. We need to cut Muslim immigration. But limiting the cuts to Muslim-majority countries would exclude Christians and other non-Muslims and also ignore Muslim immigration from non-Muslim countries such as India, Russia, France, and England.
So alongside ideological screening we need to cut immigration overall, focusing on the categories most likely to cause problems. That means eliminating the visa lottery, an absurd program in its own right but also the source of a disproportionate share of Muslim immigration; limiting family immigration to the closest relations, to prevent a cascading chain of relatives; dramatically curbing refugee resettlement, allowing us to help many more people while keeping the potential security threats off shore; and reducing the number of foreign-student admissions, the feeder program for a large share of new permanent immigration from the Islamic world.
None of these measures is a magic solution. Efforts to screen out Islamic supremacists will often fail. Limiting family migration to spouses would still permit the immigration of people like San Bernardino jihadist Tashfeen Malik. Full assimilation of existing Muslim communities, even if new inflows were reduced to a trickle, would still take time, if it's possible at all.
But if we just keep doing what we're doing now, we can't expect a different result. Trump's sweeping call to stop all Muslim travel to the U.S. will resonate with people rightly frustrated with our rulers' insouciant approach to the threat we face. Rather than simply point in outrage at Trump's crude prescription, responsible policymakers should offer a grown-up alternative.
-- Mark Krikorian is executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies.
Trump is right why just iraq and syriaâ¦.
He not a real Judge the law it self states you MUST consider Religion.
I never seen a person attacking Trump cite the poll where by over 20% of voters want the same thing.
It is not rocket science to care about who comes into the country. Trump is the only candidate who is living up to his pledge to base his decisions on what is good for the common man (person if you like) in America.
It is high time for a pause until our leadership addresses this issue.
We, the people, have been played to a stalemate and our most promising ballot box remedies have been effectively eunuchized, decommissioned or assimilated.
A hopelessly bleak situation, to be sure.
Then, all of a sudden, Trump walks in and says what the rest of America isn't allow to say and the buzzing, chattering, nattering nabobs of negativism that control our nation's inner dialog go ballistic, followed shortly thereafter by their low orbit detonations!
I still have my political questions, but this is THE BEST freaking fireworks show I've seen in forever, and some of the most entertaining reality TV, yet!
I suspect the test audience viewers will want this pilot episode to turn into regular series in the fall. I bet it will run for quite a few seasons, too.
CLOSE BORDER
DEPORT GANGS, MEXICANS, MUSLIMS, ANY OTHER THIRLD WORLD INVADERS THAT HAVE COME OVER INCLUSING THE MILLIONS OF DOMINICANS THAT HAVE RUNINED MANY AREAS WITH CRIME AND WELFARE AND DRUGS.
Trump is definitely setting the debate. No one can deny it (even Cruz supporters, such as myself).
Trump makes “outrageous” claims about a wall and deporting illegals and the outraged media fall over themselves to highlight Trump’s buffoonery. To their shock, the media find that Americans agree with Trump.
Instead of the debate being about the steps needed to legalize the illegals and just how many benefits they should receive at tax payer expense, Trump caused a seismic shift in the debate as it is now covered.
Then it was dealing with Syria and terrorists overseas. Trump said bomb the shiite out of them. Crudely delivered, maybe, but very effective no matter how you cut it. The media shook their collective heads along with the politicians and dismissed Trump. He was done for. The people, however, as reflected in the polls immediately afterwards, once again agreed. Then the debate focused on what steps, exactly, ARE we taking and why is US policy so ineffective? Maybe we should be bombing he shiite out of them?
Next, Trump wants to go after the families of terrorists. This was it! The media had him now! Politicians could join the media in a giant, leg tingling, group gotcha! moment. Except, after the fact, it is pointed out that this is a somewhat effective technique used by Israel, a country that is no stranger to terrorism. Now the debate shifts to exactly what did he mean? What responsibility do the families have? Can we, in fact go after families? How outrageous is it to even say something this outrageous? Yes, the debate shifted.
Now, Trump wants to halt the flow of muslims into the United States. The media and politicians of all stripes, with a few notable exceptions, are busy seeing who can decry Trump’s statement the loudest. Meanwhile, millions of Americans are slapping themselves on their foreheads and yelling at their TVs because they, the millions of Americans, have been saying it for years because it is just common sense. This is a topic that would have largely gone unnoticed by those who are accustomed to setting the topics of discussion.
Yes, Trump controls the debate. The more the media and the politicians debate what Trump said and meant to define just how unlike mainstream America his statements are, he controls the debate even more. When much of what Trump says is found to be a simple, unoffensive, commonsense opinion held by a majority of the American people, the media doesn’t even have time to back-peddle before Trump sets the next topic of debate.
If the poll is correct that says 25% of Muslims in America have ill thoughts about us then we Americans have a huge problem with them.
But I have little hope that he will be able to convince enough voters to go along with such a ban.
This is what it will take, and I hate to say it, or even think it: WE WILL HAVE TO SUFFER A MUCH BIGGER ATTACK THAN 9/11 TO WAKE PEOPLE UP.
ISIS says their goal is 10,000,000 dead. I think they could do it in one stroke with the right WMDs -- nuclear WMDs. It's clear to me it would have to be an attack that scores orders of magnitude greater casualties than 9/11, because clearly we have not learned to protect ourselves, even after the greatest attack since Pearl Harbor.
No, I think it will take an attack with at least 100,000 deaths for Americans to come to their senses.
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Dec. 4 2015 interview, Michael Savage interviews Walid Shebat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUOfshiJxO0
Shoebat not Shebat
Trump not only lowered a bomb yesterday about not letting Muslims in until we can find out what is going on and who they really are...
But, he woke up some more people, after the P.C.ness that we have been led to believe finally shakes off of you, then you realize what he has really done...
He’s telling us to prepare for another 9/11, that’s its coming if we don’t stop for a pause and listen and look around...
So believe him and prepare, or go on with your lives and then we’ll maybe talk about it after it happens, that is if you and I are still around...
Here’s a little tid bit for you to read:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
They must have Hitlery on some meds so she doesn’t come across as such a tight a$$ tyrant.
The media is not telling the complete story on what Trump said. Once again they are only quoting part of what he said to make him look bad. This is going to backfire on them and others that have been critical of what he said in the statement.
Sooner or later a discussion of part of his statement, a high percentage of Muslims support ISIS and an even higher support Shari law, is sorta like the emperor has no clothes and no one has the guts to bring it up.
We can look at London and France to see where massive Muslim immigration leads. They have their host countries and people and don’t hide it at all. They are like termites in the country’s business and power structure eating away at the dignity and rights of Christians and natives.
In the US our Federal government uses Muslims to advise in the war on terror. First rule they are taught: Don’t make the Muslims mad by going after terrorists nor the radical aspects of Islam. Go after those violent Christians, Jews, Vets, etc. Israel is the enemy, not Syria, etc. And our political leaders repeat their proclamations like they are in church joining in prayer. They are scared to death to let the truth hit their minds and lips. It’s sickening.
Sharia law supplants all other law. It cannot coexist with our legal system. Its implementation would represent an overthrow of our form of government.
In most Mohammedan countries, more than half the population demands the implementation of Sharia. In the United States, this would represent treason.
If we had a sane judiciary we could bar their entry based on the principle of treason.
Regardless, it should be politically possible to limit the number of immigrants from terrorist-supporting countries.
“I cannot trust Trump. My first red flag with him was when he said that he had never felt the need to ask God’s forgiveness for anything.
There’s something wrong about the core mindset of the man. A man who is unable to come to grips with his own weakness (common to mankind) is a dangerous man to put in power. “
What does asking God’s forgiveness have to do with coming to grips with weakness? People can’t fix their issues without expressing guilt and remorse to a perceived higher power?
“We can look at London and France to see where massive Muslim immigration leads.”
Yes, and I’d say you don’t solve the Muslim problem with anything short of superior force and eliminating the ones deadly in their actions and thinking.
Exactly! That's why we keep terrorist detainees at Gitmo, instead of bringing them to the USA.
If we brought them here they'd have constitutional rights. But as detainees they're enemy combatants, without constitutional protections. It's also why drone strikes conducted on terrorists overseas are conducted with more freedom than, say, a drone strike on a terrorist in the mosque parking lot in the USA.
Gitmo would make a great new Ellis Is.
Just sayin.
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