Russia is already exacting its revenge on Turkey for downing a Russian warplane

Business Insider ^ | November 26, 2015 | Natasha Bertrand

[SisterK]

Over 4 million Armenian Christians martyred by muslim turks. Got away with it the first time. Not above trying it again.

[GailA]

Putin doing DUMBO's job.

[Travis McGee]

A shotgun was used in the Paris attacks in the concert hall. Buckshot against massed bodies, pretty effective.

800 assault shotguns (collapsing stocks, pistol grips, extended mag, sights) = 100 Paris attacks, at 8 assaulters per.

[Seruzawa]

Oh I know how effective shotguns can be. They just aren’t generally accepted as “weapons of war”. My remark was aimed at the propaganda aspect of the photo.

[Safetgiver]

Shotguns are weapons of war now?....They were in VN.

[BlueLancer]

"Shotguns are weapons of war now?"

All of the way from the Trench Sweepers of World War I ...

.. through to Iraq.

[Travis McGee]

It will be news to SEALs that shotguns are not a weapon of war. At close quarters, one buckshot shell is like a burst from a subgun.

As far as propaganda aspects, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'm not a semantical purist, I punch where it hurts the best way I can.

[Travis McGee]

GMTA

[CodeToad]

“My remark was aimed at the propaganda aspect of the photo.”

Muslims are smuggling firearms for their “refugees” that are the Trojan Horse to wage war.

Fact. Not Propaganda.

[Oatka]

If we had known if it was a Russian plane maybe we would have warned it differently.

A variation of the "Pelosi Dictum": We had to pass it to see what was in it.

[JoeFromSidney]

I wonder what this will do to the "suitcase trade" between Turkey and Russia. It was a booming business when I was in Turkey. People would take a suitcase of Turkish goods (usually leather goods) into Russia, sell them, and return with a suitcase of hand tools or other manufactured goods. I used to see a lot of Russian-made stuff in Turkish flea markets. Including bootleg versions of Windows.