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No,The Islamic State Will Not Be Defeated-And If It Is,We Still Lose
Breitbart.com ^ | November 25, 2015 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 11/25/2015 3:06:16 AM PST by Biggirl

Barack Obama has now created an unwinnable war. While all of the 2016 candidates declare their strategies for victory against ISIS, President Obama’s leading from behind has now entered the Middle East and the West into a free-for-all that cannot end any way but poorly.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: isis; islamic; obama
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1 posted on 11/25/2015 3:06:17 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Obama is the pre-AntiChrist. He set up the pins. The AntiChrist will provide the solution and be hailed as a hero. The Left will suddenly become “religious” and worship him and willingly take the mark of the beast to assist in building a worldwide utopia with rainbows, unicorns, and fairies then shortly thereafter all hell breaks loose.


2 posted on 11/25/2015 3:19:30 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Biggirl

This is correct up to a point - no candidate has declared a strategy that has any possibility of defeating ISIS. They’re all talking about “bombing”, as if that has ever worked.

And, I’ll go further. If you are not winning, you are losing. The West does not believe in the possibility of its ultimate defeat, which is the Islamic State’s strongest weapon.

Defeating ISIS, once we get around to the job, IF we get around to the job, won’t be all that difficult. After all, we are talking about Arabs, not Japanese or Germans. But we show no depth of understanding and no signs of marshaling the necessary forces.

Our military leaders are still obsessed with procuring shiny new toys that fly through the air or sail on the seas, while a brutal enemy increases their regiments and dominates more territory.

Our political leaders are blind, or compromised, or afraid.

We can lose. We are losing.


3 posted on 11/25/2015 3:24:46 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Biggirl

Ben you are a brilliant man. I love your writings,but you need to do some research into the true spirit of the real American people. It could very well come to fighting in the streets and it could take a while but we are not going to lose until God the real one says so and that doesn’t seem to be His plan at this point.
Have a wonderful Thanksgiving Ben and do some thinking about why America is as great as it is in spite of Obama and the Democrats. You’ll fight there is still plenty of fight in us. Take that to the bank.


4 posted on 11/25/2015 3:26:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jsanders2001

I read years ago that JPII believed the anti-Christ was already alive. I got the impression he was born ca. 1960.

In 1976, Cardinal Wojtyla said in a speech in Wisconsin (of all places) that he did not think many Americans understood how close the “final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church” really was. Of course, with the anti-Christ will come an anti-Church.

Who will be deceived by the anti-Christ and the anti-Church?

That’s really simple: The type of people who are ALREADY deceived (or “deceived”) about such simple, black-and-white matters like KILLING BABIES. People like: Democrats, many Republicans, Cardinals Wuerl, Dolan, O’Malley, DiNardo, Archbishops Chaput, Cupich, Gomez, McElroy—i.e, bishops who give Communion to the killers of babies.

The anti-Christ and the anti-Church will offer these people what they are ALREADY exploiting and undermining the REAL Church to obtain: power, money, prestige, sex.


5 posted on 11/25/2015 3:40:05 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Biggirl

Ben is fantastic.

I still can’t get over how he was blatantly assaulted, live on CNN, by some transgender woman (man?) — and was blamed by the CNN panelists for “provoking” the assault.

“If you don’t cut that out you’ll go home in an ambulance”, he/she Zoe Tur said as Ben was grabbed by the back of the neck.

And the DA sided with the perp’s “deeply unladylike behavior” (Ben’s words).

Here’s his recall of the incident, starting at 52:25 to 57:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_VEyIpeLcU


6 posted on 11/25/2015 3:47:35 AM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: jmaroneps37

Just take into account you will be fighting against the terrorists and the Feral government protecting them.


7 posted on 11/25/2015 3:52:15 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: Arthur McGowan

And people will read that misquote and take it to the thanksgiving table, saying, the world is gonna come to a final whatever, soon, the pope said so

Others, just sick of being prophesied to, their whole lives, that someone new, just when we’re getting over the last one, says they know something about the end that Jesus Himself didn’t know, can look it up

Here it is, though: https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/john-paul-ii-said-what-now

No Cardinal w did certainly not say such a thing.


8 posted on 11/25/2015 4:48:22 AM PST by stanne
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To: Biggirl
This is simple.
First remove the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF and his EVIL ADMINISTRATION by ANY MEANS NECESSARY !
Then start doing the same to ANYONE who even tries to defend ISIS.
SEND THEM ALL TO HELL !

9 posted on 11/25/2015 4:54:14 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: stanne; Biggirl; Arthur McGowan

Others, just sick of being prophesied to their whole lives, that someone new, just when we're getting over the last one, says they know something about the end that Jesus Himself didn't know...

10 posted on 11/25/2015 4:57:26 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge

Huff!


11 posted on 11/25/2015 5:02:16 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

I don’t see any evidence that Wojtyla “certainly did not say such a thing.”

Commonweal is, of course, part of the pro-abortion katholyk church in the U.S.

Why is John Hittinger’s post characterized as “the hive mind at work”?


12 posted on 11/25/2015 5:24:41 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Biggirl

We didn’t want to wage a war against the extremists of an evil religion without inviting the evil religion into our homes to prove how multicultural and tolerant we are. Besides, the real war on terror is being waged against American citizens.


13 posted on 11/25/2015 6:44:52 AM PST by pallis
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
If anything, US involvement has been and remains vanishingly small, despite the often zany statements made about it.

14 posted on 11/25/2015 6:48:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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Who else works for Iran?
15 posted on 11/25/2015 6:49:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: stanne

I am pretty familiar with end times prophesy, especially the more plausible ones concerning prophesies based upon Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation.

The current worldwide geo-political situation and especially the current situation in the Middle East is really throwing end time prophesy proponents a curve. A good percentage of the “players” named in prophesy are there but the alliances are not right. Additionally they are not there now to go to war with Israel.

Here is a curve for the end-timers that see the anti-Christ being the head of the revived roman empire(excuse the length)....

1.reading Daniel 8:1 - 8:9 is about Alexander the Great, he is the goat in the passages. He conquers every empire from Greece, eastward, stopping at India and coming back to Egypt(read about his empire on google)

2.when he dies his kingdom is divided up amongst his 4 generals. Daniel 8:9 shows that the anti-Christ comes out of somewhere around eastern Irag. Meaning the anti-Christ is probably a Muslim.

3.Say the anti-Christ ruling Europe is correct and anti-Christ is muslim is correct. given the current mass migration of muslims into Europe, it is not unthinkable the anti-Christ is a muslim who rules over Europe. How long would it take for this situation to come about. Quite some time.

Also:
In Matthew 24:3 - 24:25, Jesus disciples ask him what the signs of his coming will be, read Jesus reply, it is basically a non-answer. All of the things he describes has happenened throughout history, with the exception of the abomination of desolation spoken of in Matt 24:15.

Bottom line...Bible prophesy’s what will happen in the “very” end times, but not when. It could be some time before the “very” end of times.


16 posted on 11/25/2015 7:12:00 AM PST by fingers_crossed
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To: Arthur McGowan

Oh just quotes and an explanation. Just googled it

I also read g weigel’s JPII bio, among others of his works, taught a little theology of the body for teens, sent my kids to St JPII school, met the pontiff and read Natl cath register, listen to ewtn radio watch programs on ewtn TV regularly

And never heard hint of any such prediction, warning

Maybe YOU could provide proof with a quote surrounded by context as I did

I just googled a cut and paste from your previous allegation


17 posted on 11/25/2015 7:56:47 AM PST by stanne
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To: Arthur McGowan
> Who will be deceived by the anti-Christ and the anti-Church?

Everyone of these guys will because they were so easily decieved before:


18 posted on 11/25/2015 7:59:44 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: stanne

Well, I’ve read about it several times over the last two decades.

The documentation is hardly overwhelming. But I don’t think that it’s been proven that he never said it. Certainly, never having heard of it before is not such proof.


19 posted on 11/25/2015 8:08:39 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: fingers_crossed

According to Catholic teaching that I’ve been close to for fifty or so years, we are to be aware that no one knows the place or time

No one that likes to tell us, my kids included, that they can read the signs in the old and new testaments has ever been able to tell us either why we are supposed to know this, why we’re supposed to believe them over the Catholic Church teaching or Jesus Himself that not even the Angels know, but they themselves find it so important that the antichrist is coming out of some stupid country very soon and has a red scar on his right butt cheek and his initials are IKE, for ‘I know everything’

End times prophesies are something I never heard from the Dominican nuns who for no known reason are so marginalized but who knew the bible and did their collective job, which was to teach us upper middle class New York brats how to read, write, and do math and how to behave virtuously, ditto the old Irish aunts, ditto the Italian neighbors, friends’ parents, local shopkeepers and deli owners whose establishments we regularly raided and who kept us in line, verbally when necessary

And I never heard a hint of any ‘the end times are near’ from any credible authority. Not until I got to the south where I encountered this

I asked clergy who have explained how the anti Christ is many things. It’s political correctness. It’s media takeover of our lives, for instance

I’ve been told we’ve been in the end times since John the Baptist announced Jesus’ impending arrival

I’ve been told, while terrifyingly awaiting the second blue moon of the year ending in a four or a six or something from a man that a group of people calling themselves ‘Catholics’ who said he was regularly hearing the Blessed Mother herself, this was “it”, that such a fright is sure good for your devotion - which it wa. But only once.

Don’t need to live in constant fear. It’s what I told my sister recently when she called to ask about the second blood moon coming up was it the end as they were saying? I said

I told her I have been told by many people through the years of living outside of that community that people claim to know who have no reason to claim to know. The point to signs. There’s as much warning in the bible against believing false prophets as there are predictions about when the end can be predicted.

As Rose Camerrari said, ‘Cosmo, we’re all gonna die.’ Seems as good as any prediction. And it’s in keeping with my faith, from an observation from the writer, Shanley, an Irish (American) observed his Italian (American) neighbors it’s a catholic view of life. I don’t go around telling people they have to think or believe this way. I

I just tell people who try to tell me to believe a different way when they try to frighten me and my kids and sisters while trying to claim prophet status that we’re just fine with our beliefs, and they’ve addressed end times prophesies quite thoroughly, thanks, get behind.

We’re all gonna die,

We Catholics know that. The good Cardinal W knew that He went to confession every day. That’s true.


20 posted on 11/25/2015 8:33:27 AM PST by stanne
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