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If we would enact Federal gun laws as tough as those in Chicago, then we would have the same rate of gun violence as they have in the Windy City ... nationwide.

1 posted on 11/13/2015 3:16:38 AM PST by Zakeet
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...”the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” in the USA.


2 posted on 11/13/2015 3:35:05 AM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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Interesting premise with which I disagree. There are no such things as gun free zones in the first place, only declared gun free zones. A declaration doesn’t make it so. The proof of course is the continued murder of innocents that generally takes place in so called gun free zones.

...and to the premise that the nation would end up with the same level of gun violence as Chicago, I contend there are enough armed citizens in the rest of the country, to make that very difficult to achieve. The nation itself is not Chicago especially the Midwest, and west and IMHO never will be. Chicago for many, is ground zero for one thing, corruption, and no one wants to be like Chicago.


3 posted on 11/13/2015 3:49:50 AM PST by wita
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And this will happen across US borders if gun control is implimented here.


5 posted on 11/13/2015 3:52:40 AM PST by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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I remember this same song and dance in 1968, as the reason for the gun control act of 1968. It did not work then and it would not work now.

The author conveniently fails to note that many of the states where the guns come from have lower crime/murder rates than the places where the guns are being taken.

The failed idea is to control all law abiding peoples access to guns, completely contrary to the Second Amendment, in a silly attempt to stop the tiny minority of dangerous criminals from getting guns.


6 posted on 11/13/2015 3:54:37 AM PST by marktwain
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Who went to jail after the government’s famous Fast and Furious fiasco?


10 posted on 11/13/2015 4:13:14 AM PST by Renegade
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12 posted on 11/13/2015 4:41:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Long article. Chock full of statistics, but the New York Times forgot to mention the worst offender.
Gun smugglers from the BATFE!


13 posted on 11/13/2015 4:49:33 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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Non-enforcement is part of the plan. Allowing the situation to appear so out of control that only a total ban will suffice.


15 posted on 11/13/2015 4:56:34 AM PST by Oratam
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How Gun Traffickers Get Around State Gun Laws

"Gun trafficking" another non-crime that is criminalized by tyrants and enforced by their JBTs. Let anyone buy any gun they want. That was pretty much the case prior to 1968 (except full auto had a $200 tax), and I believe the crime rate in the 50s and 60s was lower than it is today.

16 posted on 11/13/2015 4:57:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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—as the first responder to this piece notes, it’s as fine an example of “guns don;t kill people, people kill people” as you can find-—the supposedly “illegal” guns go from relatively peaceful states to those where a certain portion of the population uses them to kill each other——


19 posted on 11/13/2015 5:38:18 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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It looks like the only problem shown on the map is that there are high concentrations of liberals in some parts of the nation. Where there are liberals there is a clear and constant danger of too many people who are a danger to those around them.
This map is screaming for voter registration overlays, public corruption overlays and drug trafficking overlays.
Guns are the least of their problems, but they are inanimate objects that don’t vote or contribute to campaigns.


21 posted on 11/13/2015 5:43:23 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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already illegal, let them enforce the laws they already have....no, not good enough for them


22 posted on 11/13/2015 5:54:01 AM PST by dila813
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The New York Times truthful and honest reporting NOT.


23 posted on 11/13/2015 6:04:56 AM PST by TYVets
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#You May Be A Communard If

You excuse the failure of gun control because of the 'surrounding areas' but can't explain why guns aren't a problem in those same 'surrounding areas'.

31 posted on 11/13/2015 8:12:46 AM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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In response to mass shootings in the last few years, more than 20 states, including some of the nation's biggest, have passed new laws restricting how people can buy and carry guns. Yet the effect of those laws has been significantly diluted by a thriving underground market for firearms brought from states with few restrictions.

Proving that regulations and laws don't keep criminals from getting guns and committing crimes - it only effect honest law abiding citizens. Like me, who in NYS cannot buy and have ammo shipped to me. So I need to drive 100 miles to buy hard to find ammo instead of having it shipped - thx Cuomo you idiot.

34 posted on 11/13/2015 11:04:12 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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