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Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior
http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2013/01/free-republic-conservative-christless.html. ^ | 11/10/15 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 11/11/2015 5:38:57 PM PST by kindred

My dear friends, I know I'm going to get it for this post but in love I must say it (2 Cor. 12:15). Someone has to and it might as well be me. For the past 8 years I have been feeling the spiritual temperature at Free Republic and other conservative forums and have found that moral and biblical relativism, biblical ignorance, conservative optimism, Christian ecumenicalism and the outright rejection of the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 2:8-9) nearly dominate this and other conservative forums. Thank God for Free Republic, they do a great job, are sincere and mean well and are a great group of people who truly love America and conservatism as I do, but... that in itself is not enough to aid us in this dire hour. An individual today has to see the complete ETERNAL picture and that includes biblical REALITY and the reception of it. Conservatism without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ as the Holy Scriptures clearly teach is ETERNALLY bankrupt.

American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament, but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God.

Thank God for some God fearing, Bible believing, evangelical presence at Free Republic, who help point America's conservatives to the Gospel, the REALITY of the hour and Almighty God's biblical perspective, but sadly these are usually scoffed at and laughed to scorn by American conservatives who are lost and without a saving relationship to Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel (Isa. 53, Matt. 7:21-32, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 Cor. 2:14). Tragically the dominant spirit there is one of unbelief, subjective conservative optimism, spiritual delusion and ETERNAL blindness (Rom. 10:2-4). The temperature and pulse of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is near dead and ice cold. That is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me these last five years and with tears in my eyes I wish I could change that but I cannot choose for an individual to receive the Savior. American conservatives of today are no different from the Pharisees of Jesus day. These were conservative, moral, go to "church" to put it in our day language and were quite familiar with the Old Testament but when push came to shove they outright rejected Almighty God's righteousness and saving solution for their souls in SPIRIT and TRUTH (John 4:24) and held their traditions and conservatism above the Word of Almighty God (Matt. 15:1-20, Rom.10:1-4).

The temperature and climate of American conservatives who actually believe the Bible and its saving message is dead and ice cold and that is a heart breaking reality that God the Father has had to show me.

My dear friends, oh how we need Divine REALITY today and not delusional optimism and worldly solutions for our EXPONENTIAL global crises. Almighty God cries out to you all day long but will YOU receive Him and His ETERNAL solutions for your life? That is the biggest question ALL must ask themselves in these last days. All these current events and crises of our global community are self induced by the lawless and godless works of fallen man and are driving this world straight into the Day of the Lord (Rom. 1:18-32, Gal. 6:7, Rev. 6-19). These products or fruits of evil men and their consequences are left in place to bring us to the brink of our delusions so that we may come out of our subjective selves and show us our desperate need for the Savior, His pardon, and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE.

My dear friends, WHAT WILL YOU DO? Will you continue to look for worldly solutions and conservative human saviors or will you finally come to the end of yourself and receive the KING of kings and LORD of lords who is the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR and PRINCE of PEACE (Isa. 9:6-7, Rev. 19:11-16). All ETERNITY is before us and our brief existence in this fallen world is about gone. See the ETERNAL, see the Savior, see the REALITY and you will find the liberation and peace of Almighty God that will calm your hearts in America's last hours.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved!" (Acts 16:29)!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!

DJP I.F.

Conservatism Without the Righteousness of Almighty God is Bankrupt.


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To: Mariner
I feel like I’ve been judged by a Christian stranger that knows nothing of me.

Don't be childish and take it personally as if he was speaking directly to you.

My issue is that many who speak like him often turn out to be fire and brimstoners who misinterpret the Bible and the difference between the Old and New Covenants.

If you feel some resentment, then add your interpretation of what you see/hear and relate it to Scripture - never hurts to see differing opinions and taking the time to bump them against Scripture for relevance/context - that's how many of us learn more about our Savior.

121 posted on 11/12/2015 3:20:31 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: NoCmpromiz
beats those actually voting over the head with a 97 pound Scofield

Exactly. Go beyond the OP's article to the webpage and its links and what you see is

Bible believing Christians = Protestant, Reformed, dispensationalist, premilleniarians. No exceptions.

I have zero desire to accept that person's evaluation of my faith, or the faith of anyone else for that matter.

God wrote the Bible. The Scofield and Ryrie study notes are 100% man made.

122 posted on 11/12/2015 4:08:31 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: reaganaut; DJ MacWoW; HiTech RedNeck; kindred; NoCmpromiz

IN case you missed it, Kindred included YOU in their smear of the entire forum.


123 posted on 11/12/2015 4:30:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon; DJ MacWoW; Darksheare; NoCmpromiz

The poster of the original article doesn't seem to be nearly as upset (as far as I can tell from his website) about atheists or agnostics as he is about other Christians who don't adopt his detailed reading of the Bible right down to the last punctuation mark.

He's probably spent so much of his life trying to kick other Christians out of the tent that all ten of his toes have been broken quite beyond recognition.

RUNNER-UP:

Sledgehammer Christians

124 posted on 11/12/2015 4:30:38 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge; Eric Pode of Croydon; DJ MacWoW; NoCmpromiz

I feel like making this an Undead Thread just because.


125 posted on 11/12/2015 4:33:27 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

126 posted on 11/12/2015 4:34:20 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge
As preliminary setup, I bring the only deathmetal band with a bird vocalist, Hatebeak.
(For the humorless, it is a gimmicky joke.)
127 posted on 11/12/2015 4:37:52 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare

Ah, much better, dark humor on a lousy day...


128 posted on 11/12/2015 4:39:11 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge

The bird is pretty hysterical.


129 posted on 11/12/2015 4:41:17 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: kindred

If My people will humble themselves and pray ...
Definitely my responsibility to repent and change my own ways, thoughts. Help me to do that, Lord. The rest is in your hands


130 posted on 11/12/2015 5:48:59 AM PST by nevermorelenore
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To: DJ MacWoW

No that wasn’t about ego either, it was about your hypocrisy on your comments. I enjoy debate there is nothing wrong with that.

Actually,people like you and the OP drive people away from Him. Christ spoke the truth boldly,being a wimp isn’t Christlike and you Show me anywhere where you showed the love of Christ. You can’t.

The OP knocks lukewarm believers and nominal believers like yourself. I am neither.

But keep living in your self righteous fantasy DJ Mac “Bowwow”


131 posted on 11/12/2015 8:26:47 AM PST by reaganaut (ex-Mormon, Now Christian - I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Darksheare

No he didn’t and I didn’t miss it. I actually understood what he was saying and this thread proves several of his points.


132 posted on 11/12/2015 8:29:38 AM PST by reaganaut (ex-Mormon, Now Christian - I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: reaganaut
The OP knocks lukewarm believers and nominal believers like yourself. I am neither.

I never stated what I believe. You simply made assumptions.

But keep living in your self righteous fantasy DJ Mac "Bowwow"

Stated like a true Christ like believer. Sad.

Btw, when did you leave Trew Blew?

133 posted on 11/12/2015 9:00:37 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: reaganaut
But keep living in your self righteous fantasy

I'm not the one running around declaring I'm a super Christian.

Can't you see your own hypocrisy? I objected to the OP declaring Free Republic "Christless". You jumped on his egotist bandwagon.

134 posted on 11/12/2015 9:33:07 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
But keep living in your self righteous fantasy DJ Mac "Bowwow"
Stated like a true Christ like believer. Sad.

Once again I note that a poster here obviously owns a Bible that is defective or mistranslated (much as the NWT is)..

Maybe, should that poster choose to reply they can inform you how their speech as evidenced in this example conforms to Colossians 4:6..

(Should be an interesting example of spin..)

Hmmm.. Trew Blew... wonder why he/she is back here and if they support FR (it IS FReepathon, you know)...

135 posted on 11/12/2015 11:56:50 AM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: reaganaut
it was about your hypocrisy on your comments.

I note that you offer no examples of hypocritical speech from the poster you are accusing of hyprocracy. Well then, I will offer some examples for you by you...

Example of your hypocrisy:

But keep living in your self righteous fantasy DJ Mac "Bowwow"

Your own words then condemn you: you Show me anywhere where you showed the love of Christ.

So then since you brought up showing the love of Christ, the onus is on you to show/explain how you follow Christ's example by namecalling.

Go ahead.

I'm waiting.

Your own words speak volumes..

Quote you: You can't.

Moving on since you brought it up, you state, quote: "lukewarm believers and nominal believers like yourself."

Please explain how you know this to be true, because if you have no observational proof (you know, like Christ suggesting that the fruit is in kind with the tree, but to observe fruit, you must observe the tree.) then your comment is merely your opinion. Unless of course you wish to claim extra-Biblical revelation from some spirit or something (hint: it wouldn't be the Holy Spirit.) In which case, you might be a heretic..

In your statement about lukewarm and nominal believers, you claim of yourself: " I am neither."

Based on your example we have as much observational data to claim that your statement is false. As a matter of fact, we have cited direct contradictory examples of your speech being in opposition to the Word of God. You are by all presented evidence measuring yourself by yourself and comparing yourself to yourself. This is not wise.

The Bible says so...

The first person that your Bible reading should speak to is you. If you refuse to allow that you are no better than an unbeliever. Yes?

136 posted on 11/12/2015 12:36:30 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Darksheare
I feel like making this an Undead Thread just because.

The holier than thou breast beaters will see to that anyway.

137 posted on 11/12/2015 12:44:34 PM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: kindred
Who are you? Who is asking?


138 posted on 11/12/2015 3:32:20 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: reaganaut

Conservative Free Republic - You Need REALITY and the Savior
http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2013/01/free-republic-conservative-christless.html.

Yes he did, yes you did.
It is in the article, the link, and the headline.
I can read, can you?


139 posted on 11/12/2015 4:23:27 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: reaganaut

” DJ Mac “Bowwow””

Ah, a trewblewer in the house, I see.
Was that your handle over there?


140 posted on 11/12/2015 6:30:37 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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