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Prospectus West Point
West Point ^ | 2015 | West Point

Posted on 11/06/2015 9:55:26 PM PST by celmak

ADMISSIONS DECISIONS

West Point has a rolling admissions policy. Outstanding, qualified, nominated candidates will be offered admission as their records become complete. All admissions files must be complete, to include nominations, by the last workday in February.

Financial and Service Obligation

As a cadet, you are a member of the U.S. Army and receive a full scholarship and an annual salary of more than $10,000 from which you pay for your uniforms, textbooks, a laptop computer, and incidentals. There is no tuition charge, but there is a requirement for an initial deposit. Room, board, and medical and dental care are provided by the United States Government.

(Excerpt) Read more at westpoint.edu ...


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Has anybody even bothered to check the West Point web site? Read the second to the last page on the West Point prospectus.
1 posted on 11/06/2015 9:55:26 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

He got accepted to Yale. He had the supporters who told him he’d be given a scholarship.

Note the media firestorm over this one slight error vs. the total walk Obama got about his past.

People have caught on and ignore the media. Trump has been the first truly post-MSM candidacy. Well, you can go back to Reagan when the media was truly in control. Reagan just bypassed them and went straight to the American people.


2 posted on 11/06/2015 9:57:52 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: celmak

Uh, there IS this little detail that you must be nominated by a U.S. Congressman from the district you live in before even being considered by West Point.


3 posted on 11/06/2015 9:59:11 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TigerClaws
Note the media firestorm over this one slight error

I don't even see the error...slight or otherwise.

What error?!

4 posted on 11/06/2015 9:59:50 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: celmak

Exactly.

It degenerated down to playing with words - that West Point only has appointments, not scholarships, as if calling it a scholarship was damning, somehow making Carson a confabulator.

When in fact West Point refers to it as scholarship.


5 posted on 11/06/2015 10:01:41 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: celmak

Expecting the news media to actually practice investigative journalism seems to be setting too high of a standard for that career path.


6 posted on 11/06/2015 10:02:13 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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Uh, there IS this little detail that you must be nominated by a U.S. Congressman from the district you live in before even being considered by West Point.

So what's your point?

7 posted on 11/06/2015 10:04:05 PM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: celmak

Great work Celmak!


8 posted on 11/06/2015 10:05:04 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: catnipman
Do you think that if he was referred by a Filed Force member or an active member in the Army recruiting from JR ROTC that a fatherless poor black boy from the projects who excelled to the top of JR ROTC, was tops in his class and wanted to go to West Point would have ever had a problem getting a recommendation from a local Detroit Congressperson? Really?
9 posted on 11/06/2015 10:13:13 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“Really?”

Really. Each Congressperson gets to make only two nominations per year, and ALL the nominations from Detroit are going to be poor black kids.


10 posted on 11/06/2015 10:17:02 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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[It degenerated down to playing with words - that West Point only has appointments, not scholarships, as if calling it a scholarship was damning, somehow making Carson a confabulator.]

Dr. Carson, like Herman Cain, represents a profound threat to the Democrats. As a black, successful conservative and Republican, Carson stands as a role model who could persuade some blacks to consider switching parties and ideologies. That’s why it was imperative to mount a covert campaign against Cain, not just to lower his numbers but to destroy him. Even if Carson does not win the nomination he will remain in the public eye as proof that a poor black man does not need the Democrats to succeed. The Democrats are desperate to ruin him.


11 posted on 11/06/2015 10:17:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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Each Congressperson gets to make only two nominations per year, and ALL the nominations from Detroit are going to be poor black kids.

Still does NOT give evidence Carson was lying, so your point is moot.

12 posted on 11/06/2015 10:26:02 PM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Thanks!


13 posted on 11/06/2015 10:26:34 PM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

And IIRC the allegations regarding Cain were entirely false. He should have stuck with his campaign!


14 posted on 11/06/2015 10:28:08 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: catnipman

That is NOT true. Most cadets are nominated by members of Congress, but the law allows the President and the Secretary of the Army to appoint people. General William Westmoreland was the Chief of Staff of the Army from 1968 to 1972 and his boss was the Stanley R. Resor who was the Secretary of the Army.

Title 10 of the United States Code, Chapter 403, Section 4342 states that the Secretary of the Army can appoint 85 cadets from the ranks of the active duty Army, Navy, or Air Force; 85 from the reserve components of the A/N/AF; and 20 from schools deemed by the Secretary of the Army to be superior.

In short, one need not be nominated by a member of Congress to be admitted to the US Military Academy (or the US Naval Academy or the US Air Force Academy.)

What people believe to be true is often false. In this case your belief that a person must be appointed by a member of Congress is and always has been false.


15 posted on 11/06/2015 10:32:31 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Good post!


16 posted on 11/06/2015 10:39:23 PM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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http://www.usma.edu/admissions/Lists/Glossary%20of%20Terms/DispForm.aspx?ID=28&ContentTypeId=0x0100EF4D30B455E07348A96C4B1B3C7C160D

Having been connected to the process, I know that (1) you do have to have a complete application to be formally offered admission to West Point, and (2) you do not have to have completed your package to be told in writing, through a Letter of Assurance, that you “will most likely be offered admission upon completion of” the application.

Even if, as claimed by the media, Carson never completed an application to West Point, his version could be essentially true, certainly as perceived by a comparatively unsophisticated 17 y/o boy. With West Point describing their admission as a “full scholarship” and providing these letters even to students who have not completed the application, this smear against Dr. Carson looks like much ado about nothing.


17 posted on 11/06/2015 11:00:59 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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But if your commander wants you in west point, he finds the sponsoring senator.
Its usually academic after your commanding officer puts you up for admittance.


18 posted on 11/06/2015 11:24:05 PM PST by Fernet Branca (Liberalism is for girls)
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Catnipman, a nomination from your Congressman or Senator is one method. You can also be nominated by the Vice President and there are several other ways for which nominations and appointments can be given to prospective cadets such as the 100 or so appointments reserved for enlisted men who want to attend as well as some special categories for those who are outright recruited for sports or for other reasons. Needless to say, if a four star wants someone to get a nomination or appointment, there are several means the by which his desires will be carried out. Given the unpopularity of the military in 1969, there were classes in the early 1970’s which were very hard to fill because of the unpopularity of the military at the time. The informal verbal offer from Westmoreland would have been pretty much a guarantee of a formal appointment if Carson had simply applied. The appointments are often referred to as full scholarships for people who may not be familiar with the Academy. The entire hullabaloo is making much to do about nothing.


19 posted on 11/06/2015 11:42:32 PM PST by Bill Russell
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
One of my ex-bosses was the JROTC head for the Canal Zone in the late 70s, and he was a West Point graduate (former enlisted).

He told me he was allocated 3 appointments a year to West Point. I said do you really mean appointments and not nominations?

He said, yes appointments.

20 posted on 11/07/2015 2:23:50 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Held my nose to vote.)
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