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Cruz: Abolishing IRS Not a ‘Pie in the Sky’ Proposal
Breitbart ^ | 4 Nov 2015 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 11/04/2015 7:55:37 PM PST by Isara

Wednesday on Fox Business Network's "Varney & Co.," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), ....... insisted that his tax plan that would abolish the Internal Revenue Service, isn’t a “pie in the sky” proposal, as FBN host Stuart Varney suggested it was.

"Well, you know it's interesting," he said. "If you go back to 1981 when Ronald Reagan was elected president, he wanted to cut the top marginal tax rate from 70 percent to 28 percent. Every observer said that's pie in the sky, that will never happen and especially that will never happen with a Democratic House of Representatives and Tip O'Neill as speaker of the House."

"And what Reagan did is he took the case to the American people and he made the case that with economic growth, we can turn this country around," he continued. "And we went from the stagflation, the misery and malaise of the Carter years to the seven fat years, to the booming Reagan growth. My tax plan, a simple flat tax is designed to do the same thing and we're going to do the same thing by taking it to the American people by coming out of this election with a mandate from the people."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abolishirs; cruz; cruztaxplan; elections; irs; stuartvarney; taxes; taxplan; tcruz; tedcruz
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To: lewislynn

As an accountant I agree with you. I have not read any details of his tax plan for business, but I guess I should, because he seems like too smart a guy to propose that.


21 posted on 11/04/2015 9:59:03 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Isara

After abolishing the IRS, how will it be verified that people are not cheating on their income tax?


22 posted on 11/04/2015 10:13:07 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Popman
We will always have a “IRS” type 800 lb gorilla federal enforcement agency...

Turn it loose on illegal aliens. Make asset forfeiture and deportation it's number one priority. When complete, cut it down to 5% of it's size for administration of a Fair Tax.

JMHO. YMMV.
23 posted on 11/04/2015 10:52:02 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: joshua c

‘Does he mention his VAT?”

No he so far as failed to put that little pearl out there on display. I am grading Ted’s tax plan as an epic fail.

Trump has a tax plan that will actually spur business development and create jobs. Will it cost money? Yes but look what it took to put us in this ditch. Its going to cost to get things put back together.


24 posted on 11/04/2015 10:54:01 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: WilliamIII

Ted Cruz, as the next Supreme Court justice


Ted Cruz as president...priceless


25 posted on 11/05/2015 12:07:04 AM PST by RginTN
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To: RginTN

He can still be appointed to the court after serving 8 years as president.

He wouldn’t be the first former president to become a supreme court justice.


26 posted on 11/05/2015 4:04:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: lewislynn
Imagine you have a business, you pay 16% tax on your gross sales, including profit. Then you file your individual return for the profit you earned and pay another 10% on the profit your business just paid 16% on. The sCruz IRS would have to hire more auditors just for that. The sCruz tax is designed to have the eliminated corporate taxes paid for off the backs of small business.

Wow - you must really dislike Cruz.

Question, what effective tax rates do businesses really pay? How do they negate the effects of them? If you said zip and by raising costs of products to make up for them, you may be closer to right than what the rest of your screed is.

BTW - Joe Public will be able to do his taxes on a postcard and nobody in the world, who actually thinks would think that, even businesses would be able to do their taxes on a postcard...

If you feel so strongly, then donate to a campaign that you think will achieve your goals (and don't forget FR) so you can say you did your part in trying to make things right as you see them - too many miss the big picture because they are concerned about their own personal situation - when that happens, nothing can ever get done to set things right because anything worth doing will have a negative impact on some folks, so selfishness among "conservatives" will also thwart conservatism....

Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader.....

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

27 posted on 11/05/2015 4:23:48 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2nd Amendment; 2ndDivisionVet; alstewartfan; altura; azkathy; aposiopetic; AUTiger83; arderkrag; ...
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28 posted on 11/05/2015 4:30:36 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: trebb

The owner of the little party store in my town says he likes the Cruz plan because the money saved on not having to keep an accountant on retainer alone is worth his support.


29 posted on 11/05/2015 4:38:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek
The owner of the little party store in my town says he likes the Cruz plan because the money saved on not having to keep an accountant on retainer alone is worth his support.

Yep - funny how some folks who claim to be conservative, and who use a conservative Forum, find so many reasons to destroy the most conservative choices we have.

30 posted on 11/05/2015 4:53:30 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Happens every election season that I’ve been a FReeper.

A consistent conservatives are tossed overboard for the latest political Justin Beiber to hit the scene. Chris Christie for example is one who spent some time as the last great conservative hope of FReepers. If I wanted to destroy conservatism, its exactly the sort of thing I would do if I were the Democrat or GOPe parties.

I challenge any long time FReeper to go back and look at threads about Trump from just a few years ago to see what they and those around them were saying about Trump. Many of those who condemned Trump as a liberal Scumbag in the last election are treating him like some kind of conservative god king today.

Honesty is telling others the truth. Integrity is telling yourself the truth.


31 posted on 11/05/2015 5:53:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: 353FMG

Now THAT is a winning issue.

NO ONE should have to pay taxes on money being returned to them by the government decades after they paid into the system.


32 posted on 11/05/2015 6:33:26 AM PST by Regulator
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To: trebb; cripplecreek
"Yep - funny how some folks who claim to be conservative, and who use a conservative Forum, find so many reasons to destroy the most conservative choices we have."

Rush Limbaugh pegged them when he said that Cruz terrifies some Republicans because he's too conservative.

In fact, just the other day a Trump supporter here on FR said that very thing to me---Cruz is too conservative. Couple that with the fact that some other Trump fans have openly stated support for universal healthcare, and shrugged off abortion as no big deal, and it's pretty clear why you see so much ankle-biting on Cruz threads.

They say they're confident that their unstoppable juggernaut is going to waltz right into the White House, yet they sure do seem bothered by Cruz.

33 posted on 11/05/2015 7:10:07 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: trebb; lewislynn

Yes. LewieLynn hates Cruz. Slams him every chance she gets.


34 posted on 11/05/2015 7:36:20 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: cripplecreek
I challenge any long time FReeper to go back and look at threads about Trump from just a few years ago to see what they and those around them were saying about Trump. Many of those who condemned Trump as a liberal Scumbag in the last election are treating him like some kind of conservative god king today.

Honesty is telling others the truth. Integrity is telling yourself the truth.

I understand your concerns with Trump and I remember how everyone fawned over Rubio when he hit the scene because he presented as a conservative Latino. Even more recently some were taking to Rand Paul as a "reborn conservative" because he had a short streak of talking like one.

Can't put my finger on it, but except for Cruz, Trump causes me the least angst when considering him for President. Carson gives me the heebie jeebies and whatsherface (Fiorina) strikes me as a Rubio only due to sex vs. race and may have even deeper issues than he does as far as being conservative. If it isn't Cruz or Trump in the end, next November will be a lousy time.

35 posted on 11/06/2015 3:05:16 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Rush Limbaugh pegged them when he said that Cruz terrifies some Republicans because he's too conservative.

In fact, just the other day a Trump supporter here on FR said that very thing to me---Cruz is too conservative. Couple that with the fact that some other Trump fans have openly stated support for universal healthcare, and shrugged off abortion as no big deal, and it's pretty clear why you see so much ankle-biting on Cruz threads.

They say they're confident that their unstoppable juggernaut is going to waltz right into the White House, yet they sure do seem bothered by Cruz.

Can't argue with anything you said. Too many fall for the "he's so conservative he can't be elected meme and others have a pet peeve about a single issue that they don't understand but they use it to declare him "not conservative".

God help us.

36 posted on 11/06/2015 3:08:15 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Isara
I will vote for Trump or Carson, but Cruz is miles above them and he is my first choice.

Cruz is a once-in-a-generation candidate.

37 posted on 11/06/2015 3:14:14 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: joshua c
Does he mention his VAT?

The tax on businesses that replaces the 15% payroll tax? Yes.

(Don't kid yourself. Employees pay both halves of SS.)

So if you're an employee, Cruz' proposal will amount to a 10% flat income tax for income over $35k/yr, replacing ALL other taxes.

38 posted on 11/06/2015 3:18:05 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: cripplecreek
Happens every election season that I’ve been a FReeper.

A consistent conservatives are tossed overboard for the latest political Justin Beiber to hit the scene.

When I signed on Bush 42 was all the rage here. He would win!

I have to admit. They were right.

39 posted on 11/06/2015 3:22:09 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: trebb
"Can't argue with anything you said. Too many fall for the "he's so conservative he can't be elected meme and others have a pet peeve about a single issue that they don't understand but they use it to declare him "not conservative".

God help us."

They've become used to that good feeling they get when he says all the things they want to hear. They don't want to give up their Donnie for anything.

40 posted on 11/06/2015 8:39:25 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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