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Debate 3: Ted Cruz Changes the Game
American Thinker ^ | 10/29/2015 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 10/29/2015 4:09:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

There was a disturbance in the force last night at CNBC's Republican debate, and it left no doubt of who won and who lost. The loser was CNBC, and the winners were all ten Republican candidates – in varying degrees, of course. (More on that later). And there is no doubt when this shift in the axis happened.

Everything changed when Ted Cruz dressed down Carl Quintenilla and John Harwood – two of CNBC's far-left commentators – and literally mocked their absurd line of questioning.

Cruz did not just criticize the questions; he made sport of them. He demonstrated just how infantile most of the CNBC crew was (Tea Party originator Rick Santelli not included). Cruz flat-out embarrassed them, and they knew it.

After the crowd stopped roaring in approval of Cruz's protest, which took a while, the rest of the Republicans followed the Texas senator's lead, and there was almost no Republican-on-Republican crime after this exchange. In fact, we then saw numerous examples where Republicans made it clear that any of the ten on the stage would be far preferable to what we have now, and to Hillary Clinton. These comments were met with loud approval from the audience every time. Meanwhile, Quintenilla was literally booed loudly three times.

Later in the night, Chris Christie embarrassed the mods again with his fantasy football reply, as did Mike Huckabee by turning a gotcha question related to Donald Trump into praise of Trump. I have my problems with Christie and Huck overall, but both are demonstrably nimble on their feet.

And because these precious egotistical and not very bright media mavens crave the love of the audience, I submit that this dynamic will go farther than just recasting the last hour or so of this debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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KEYWORDS: changesgame; cruz; debate; debates; elections
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To: 1010RD

the green stuff you call money is merely physical representation of entries on electronic ledgers


21 posted on 10/29/2015 4:52:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: FrankR

I liked when Christie said,’are you gonna answer the question for me’?

Some Mod decorum-—ask the question and allow the candidate to finish. If they exceed the time have a bell ding allowing them about 10-15 more seconds before cutting them off. Otherwise don’t interrupt answers like the impetulant brats that they are. So unprofessional.


22 posted on 10/29/2015 4:53:59 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: FrankR
They seemed to assuming the mantle of being the national deciders of who gets to run for office.

Word. There was a female guest on 'Meet the Press' recently who stated that many in the media felt it was THEIR job to select the candidates running for office.

23 posted on 10/29/2015 4:54:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: 2nd Amendment; 2ndDivisionVet; alstewartfan; altura; aposiopetic; AUTiger83; arderkrag; anymouse; ..
TC FR photo Ted-Cruz-Ping-Donate_FR.jpg
24 posted on 10/29/2015 4:55:46 AM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: 1010RD

Your second paragraph answers why gold is desirable. Gold is an escape from the evils of a digital cashless society.


25 posted on 10/29/2015 5:02:49 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

And a return to the golden Age of Empires. You cannot get there from here.


26 posted on 10/29/2015 5:07:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bert

Bert, when you agree with me, then I know I’m right. Thanks. IIRC physical money and coins are about 10% of dollar circulation right now.


27 posted on 10/29/2015 5:09:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I believe this debate has given Cruz his breakout moment. The media tried to keep him ignored, but the man rose up and won the fight. I hope the electorate gives him a fair look as the man has a lot to offer.


28 posted on 10/29/2015 5:11:28 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: catfish1957

I think Cruz can win, we’re only starting to see his rise in the primaries. Can you imagine two hours of Cruz facing Hillary in a debate? She would have zero chance!


29 posted on 10/29/2015 5:12:34 AM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Gotta reward great behavior, so I just dropped another contribution in Ted’s kettle.


30 posted on 10/29/2015 5:15:32 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: 1010RD
love affair with gold that some conservatives have is silliness

Yeah, and there are some huge misunderstandings w/ the willfully ignorant that really muddy the discourse.  Two facts that we all need to remember:

The dollar and gold are already tied together.  Right now it's set at $1,158.45/oz by the free market and we can expect the ratio to change just as it kept changing for hundreds of years.

Most dollars are created not by the printing press, not by the Fed, but by banks both in the U.S. and all over the world --and it's been that way for hundreds of years both with and w/o gold.


31 posted on 10/29/2015 5:17:48 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Servant of the Cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmUqzJnf8zY

Cruz looks great, although the title says rant. Rand Paul disappointed by not demanding the moderators allow Cruz to reply. He could have done the nation a favor by calling these guys out.


32 posted on 10/29/2015 5:19:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bert
...merely physical representation of entries on electronic ledgers...

--which can be traded for lots of good stuff for fairly stable prices.

33 posted on 10/29/2015 5:20:23 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Servant of the Cross; C. Edmund Wright
There is no question Cruz crushed the mods and the entire premises of the debate last night, further enhanced by Trump's "Do you write this stuff?" and Rubio's blistering assault on the Sentinel.

Game changer? We'll see. I doubt it will be for Cruz. While it's red meat to us conservatives, it wouldn't be likely to influence undecideds. The Carson "play nice" voters wouldn't like it cause it's too aggressive. Fiorina's supporters (the ones I known) would go Rubio or Yeb before Ted.

In the end, what Cruz did accomplish was to further enable everyone to freely bash the media and to re-state the questions their own way in future encounters. It remains to be seen whether they will do this. So far, only Trump and Cruz have really done this, and, to a lesser extent, Carson.

My guess is that Cruz gained a point or two in the polls, but I doubt it came from either Carson or Trump. Maybe "undecideds." Kasich and Yeb are now pretty much finished. Huck and Christie are hanging on by a thread. Fiorina will survive for a while. Rubio emerges as the clear #3.

34 posted on 10/29/2015 5:21:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TexasRepublic
Gold is an escape from the evils of a digital cashless society.

Huh.  I thot we were just talking about naming a conversion rate of $ per oz.  You're now talking about what, outlawing credit cards? Internet shopping?  Please tell us.

35 posted on 10/29/2015 5:23:55 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

I hadn’t noticed either of those until you pointed them out. ;-]

This will have no effect on economic know-nothins. The real problem isn’t the type of currency, but how much you allow government to manipulate its growth. I like Freidman’s proposal on a set % growth in the velocity of money.

Nobody knows what the future will bring, but the less guesswork the better. It also makes an objective case for when cheating is occurring aka inflation.


36 posted on 10/29/2015 5:24:17 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I thought the same thing. Any of the candidates would’ve gained by yielding their time to Cruz to allow him to give his views on the Budget Bill. As it turned out, the moderators backtracked at the end of the segment and gave Cruz his opportunity to speak. I’m thinking CNBC was reading the social media sites and seeing Cruz won the showdown.


37 posted on 10/29/2015 5:25:56 AM PDT by Typelouder
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To: 1010RD

BookMarking


38 posted on 10/29/2015 5:28:52 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Typelouder

The goal isn’t thoughtfulness, but trolling our candidates. Sadly, that’s the media we have. That Rand, who has zero chance of winning the nomination, didn’t take the opportunity to pass the ball back to his one ally in the Senate tells me all about egomaniac Rand. Nothing would have improved his chances of reelection in KY like being a team player, the conservative team player.


39 posted on 10/29/2015 5:33:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: expat_panama

BTW...... in a recent article in Forbes, there is a rather long discussion of Bitcoin, what it is and how it works.

Bitcoin is truly the purely electronic money devoid of paper representation but apparently a working system for transactions on a truly global scale

the article and Bitcoin description seriously reinforced my understanding of electronic ledgers. fortunately, i had a stash of $$ in the glove box intended for paying tolls so we got our apples.

folks here like to be critical of credit cards and i understand some of the rational for the thinking. However, for about three years now my wife and I have almost quit using cash. we buy almost everything using the card and pay it off with no charges or fees. we get a paper statement each month that is the physical representation of our small electronic ledger and what amounts to a transaction journal for the period.

We screwed up or almost screwed up over the week end at a farmer’s market. We wanted to buy apples and needed cash. We forgot to get some cash from the depository at home.

If my barber got one of those squares that convert a cell phone to a credit card reader, the main reason I carry cash would be gone.


40 posted on 10/29/2015 5:35:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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