Posted on 10/27/2015 3:39:38 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
Somebody needs to read the Bell Curve again.
So, 35% of variance in SAT is race/ethnicity/socioeconomic. “In contrast, socioeconomic factors could not be linked in a major way to variance in high school grade point averages. Socioeconomic factors, including race and ethnicity, accounted for 7 percent of the variance in GPAs in 1994 and 8 percent in 2011.”
One very obvious conclusion would be that schools aren’t teaching anything of value for the students’ futures, while giving them full credit for participating.
At the University where my brother teaches chemistry, in the early 2000’s there was essentially a perfect correlation between SAT score and ability to complete a chemistry major. With all the jicky-jacking going on, I don’t know if this remains true.
Effort! Is anyone allowed to look at that any more? Somehow students who have poor attendance, pay little attention when present, do little work in class and almost no homework are expected to achieve similarly to students who do the opposite. That seldom happens.
The fact that high school GPA's have a much smaller gap between groups than SAT scores probably means that students in schools with relatively high GPA but low SAT grade much easier or teach much easier courses than schools where GPA and SAT are similar. The SAT is a test that is the same for all who take it. GPA can mean anything.
Quite well, I believe.
The key is something called "g-factor" which is the component of intelligence that measures reasoning ability and abstraction. If there's a racial correlation in IQ, there should be one in the SAT, although I'd be surprised if it was exact.
We can send a man to the moon but we cant create an academic test where blacks and hispanics score as well as whites.
Pushing the stupid into college so now we will have stupid with a college degree
RACIST Culture's impact on SAT Results.
More precisely, it is the Black Culture's negative and dismissive attitude toward education as being "too White" -- that is dragging the would-be black achievers back into the hellhole of their own RACIST hellhole of a "Cultcha".
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How blighted must be a culture be to have as its distinguishing icons:
1) "Ebonics" -- deliberate bastardization of English to sound ignorant.
2) "cRAP" -- mindless, tuneless "music" ...pre-school, gutter-rhyming filth, spewed to the monotonous thump of tribal drums.
3) Abortion -- a world-class infant mortality epidemic -- fueled by irresponsibility
4) Murder -- Intra-racial slaughter -- for "dissing" one another...
5) Institutionalized Ignorance -- driven by hatred of the one thing that could lift them as a race -- acting "white" and using their God-given brains.
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There IS such a thing as "White Privilege" -- the privilege of NOT being a part of an in-group that is committing racial suicide
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How can such overwhelming negativity not show up on comparative test results?.
Re. cRAP. Just use the acronym RAP. Per my daughters it stands for “Retards Attempting Poetry. “
What a biased POS. same old excuses
Hey, Geiser. Give up your own damn job to some “victim” of “apartheid schools
Hypocritical b******
Here's a big "I Told You So" shoutout to Murray and Hernstein.
High parental IQ correlates with high parental income. To the degree that IQ is heritable, high IQ/income parents will produce high SAT children.
stronger predictors of SAT scores than family income and parental education levels.
Well, surprise, surprise. Did it ever occur to the researchers that maybe rich people are rich because they're smarter than average? Or that smart parents tend to have smart kids?
SAT scores correlate very highly with grades earned in college. In short, they do predict who will do well in college. What's wrong with that?
stronger predictors of SAT scores than family income and parental education levels.
Well, surprise, surprise. Did it ever occur to the researchers that maybe rich people are rich because they're smarter than average? Or that smart parents tend to have smart kids?
SAT scores correlate very highly with grades earned in college. In short, they do predict who will do well in college. What's wrong with that?
I don’t believe there are any intelligence differences between any of the races.
My Christian faith tells me that.
And what backs it up is evidence.
I see plenty of reasons for differences in test scores between black people and other races, for starters.
I don’t have a lot of time tonight to discuss it, but one big difference is the experience of being in authority, one of the very things that black people were historically targeted for, to prevent them from having.
My father was in factory management, for example, and being in some authority gives you different perspectives, and brings you into contact with people of different perspectives. Middle class and upper middle class people, including their children, then influence each other. The upper middle class neighborhood I was raised in was one in which there were high standards, even standards that were too high, and not in keeping with Christian values. Some kids weren’t allowed to set foot on their lawns, and some people had rooms in their homes no one was allowed to set foot in.
So, just to conclude on this one point I have time for, integration has happened on the basis of race, but mostly between black people and lower-income whites. That is integration compared to fifty years ago, but it’s not parity, and after such a short time on the historical scale, it’s not very surprising that that’s all that’s happened. But the norm for lower-income whites is not to find it unusual, for example, not to finish high school, to use drugs, and to have brushes with the law, sometimes serious ones.
I work with many black people, though, and see that although they work in a restaurant, there are many with middle-class values, especially those who become managers at any level, values including wanting their kids to do well in school. I see these young black people being just as responsible with their children, including doing things like when school was about to start back up, one woman mentioning that her kids would start going to bed at their school bed times a week in advance to get them used to the routine again.
true enough
but a few years back (80’s?)when many states installed their educational reform programs they began to take away from the college bound, assigning poor students to same classes, removed competition, etc. For instance in the local middle school they stopped the Math Count competitive teams and other similar events. One state canceled the yearly spelling bee, but there was such a hue and cry they backed off. According to this new philosophy they would remove all sports, if they could.
One other quick thing I’ll mention.
It was too soon to expect that black children in general could catch up to children of other races, in so short a time, especially because they still faced many extra challenges.
Black people were making inroads, just as many immigrant groups have, through manufacturing jobs, but just as they did, manufacturing started being shipped overseas, as we know.
At the same time, too, secular humanists, including the secular humanist corporations, started undermining Christian beliefs, with greater and greater success.
Something that is coming to my notice more and more is how people do not have basic respect for rules anymore, as they used to, in which even if they broke a rule, they’d feel some guilt about it, or at least know they should.
But today, people use the “situation ethics” and moral relativism of not respecting rules, but just asking “will my actions hurt anyone,” and if they can’t imagine it will, then they feel they can morally break rules. That really makes for a narcissistic, amoral society.
Sad, but true.
I wish I could remember where I read it, but slaves would have to learn to read in secrecy.
They would take the daily plantation's trash, wrapped in a newspaper, and teach themselves how to do it. Then they'd teach other slaves the "secret".
In 2015, black American students, no longer slaves by centuries, avoid learning like it's the plague.
So pathetic and sad.
Imagine if Black-American parents instilled a love of learning like Asian parents do.
Gee, I can’t imagine why the children of parents who value education would be better educated than those who subscribe to the wonders of rap “music” and gang culture.
Anyone else read “Harrison Bergeron?” Vonnegut’s fiction might become reality if the leftists have their way. And the Rush lyric, “And the trees were all kept equal, by hatchet, ax, and saw.”
Mark
A few years ago something similar happened in Berkeley, Ca, if you can believe it. They dropped their advanced placement math courses to increase their remedial courses. Parents were upset, obviously.
The single most important factor in success is the raw will to continue trying until you get it right.
All other factors may be at their best, but without the desire to excel, nothing great will come of it.
At times, even that will not be enough, but those who continue trying, who learn from mistakes and continue to develop their skills will usually get by or succeed.
Apparently random and unavoidable events beyond the control of an individual or their conceivable ability to predict can shape and propel a person, or stop a career in its tracks.
Those same 'wild card' factors can affect education as well.
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