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California's Bullet Train Will Take Even Longer To Go Nowhere
IBD ^ | 10/27/2015

Posted on 10/27/2015 7:29:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

California's high-speed rail project will never make its current 2022 arrival time, according to the Los Angeles Times. Doesn't this strike anyone in charge of this costly boondoggle as ironic?

The Los Angeles Times does a commendable job of providing a reality check to the increasingly out-of-touch project. After reviewing project documents and talking to various experts, the paper concluded, "The deadline and budget targets will almost certainly be missed," and state officials have "underestimated the challenges ahead."

Officials still haven't settled on a route, they're behind schedule in acquiring land, getting permits and financing, and the project faces several lawsuits.

Boring on the 36 miles of planned tunnels isn't likely to get started until 2019, the Times notes, and by any reasonable estimate it will take another 7 to 14 years to complete. Even that's probably optimistic, since several parts will traverse known fault lines, vastly increasing the complexity of the effort.

It could easily take another four years after the tunnels are finished to install all the track and equipment. That means that completion of just Phase 1 of the bullet train will be closer to 2030.

Costs, which have already more than doubled, are likely to be higher than the current $68 billion estimate, the Times notes. Project-management firm Parsons Brinckerhoff said in a secret 2013 report, which the Times obtained, that it saw cost overruns "in almost every phase of the project." The state hasn't figured out how to finance the current costs.

Officials have already backpedaled on the lofty promises of travel time and ridership. To keep costs down to $68 billion, for example, the trip from San Francisco to Los Angeles won't be on high-speed rail at either end. And instead of 90 million a year, ridership is expected to be about 30 million.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bullettrain; california; highspeedtrain
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1 posted on 10/27/2015 7:29:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah but think of the kickbacks...........the mind boggles.


2 posted on 10/27/2015 7:31:27 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it politically correct to call it a ‘bullet’ train?


3 posted on 10/27/2015 7:31:43 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: SeekAndFind

This is not about building any damn train! It’s about consultants collecting millions of taxpayer dollars in return for their financial support of Guvner Brown and the California Democrat Socialist Party.


4 posted on 10/27/2015 7:32:57 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: GeronL

Willie Green Memorial Ping.


5 posted on 10/27/2015 7:34:02 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

I so miss Willy Green on these threads... :(


6 posted on 10/27/2015 7:34:49 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Right Brother

RE: Is it politically correct to call it a ‘bullet’ train?

It is often referred to as the high speed train in the Golden State.


7 posted on 10/27/2015 7:35:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

3x longer than planned to build.
3x higher cost than budgeted.
1/3 the passengers and revenue.

If you are a democrat or union guy, you’re in heaven.


8 posted on 10/27/2015 7:36:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: SeekAndFind

The continuing comi-tragedy that is California.


9 posted on 10/27/2015 7:37:47 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just go ask the people of Boston how well these things turn out by the time they’re finished. Or even Detroit for smaller projects with the union label attached.


10 posted on 10/27/2015 7:38:14 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: SeekAndFind

“California’s Bullet Train Will Take Even Longer To Go Nowhere”

Sounds like an apropriate metaphor for liberal ideas.


11 posted on 10/27/2015 7:40:59 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("'Return to me, and I will return to you,' says the LORD Almighty." -Malachi 3:7)
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To: Right Brother

Took the Japanese only 5 years to construct the first Shinkansen route between Tokyo and Osaka ( 1959-1964 ) and that was 50 years ago !!!


12 posted on 10/27/2015 7:42:19 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: Right Brother

I feel threatened.


13 posted on 10/27/2015 7:44:18 AM PDT by mykroar ("Never believe anything until it has been officially denied." - Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SeekAndFind

The LATimes story on which this IBD article is based is quite good. Speaks to geologists and engineers about the challenges of tunneling through the San Gabriel mountains. Made is sound as though Cave-ins will be very difficult to predict or prevent. The mountains are highly friable.


14 posted on 10/27/2015 7:46:50 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
If you are a democrat or union guy, you’re in heaven.

The California Union of Networked Ticket-Takers, Local 123, likes the idea.

15 posted on 10/27/2015 7:49:39 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: SeekAndFind

California’s answer to “The Big Dig”
Boston’s multi-billion dollar boondoggle that seems to have done not much to alleviate traffic problems

Apparently when you funnel EVERYONE through a few openings in the ground you still have lines hours long on the thruway.

It took me 3 hours to get to the airport once, and it is a half-hour drive with no traffic.


16 posted on 10/27/2015 7:52:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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RE: Speaks to geologists and engineers about the challenges of tunneling through the San Gabriel mountains. Made is sound as though Cave-ins will be very difficult to predict or prevent

So, did the original estimate take the above difficulties and challenges into account and factor in the cost? I think not.


17 posted on 10/27/2015 7:52:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Abathar

That makes ‘one’ of us.


18 posted on 10/27/2015 7:55:08 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The bullet train is a classic example of bait and switch.

It was sold with a low price tag, unrealistic assumptions and no real financing plan in place.

Voters are not going to be delivered what they were promised.

Its unlikely to ever be built.


19 posted on 10/27/2015 7:55:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

I take it BO$$ TWEED is in charge of this boondoggle?


20 posted on 10/27/2015 7:57:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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