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Actually, Canada, health care isn’t ‘free’
Globe and Mail ^ | 10/26/2015 | Andre Picard

Posted on 10/26/2015 1:28:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

At sporting matches, it is customary for fans of the home team to chant unflattering jabs at their opponents, and the Sunday night soccer “friendly” game between Canada and the U.S., played at Toronto’s BMO Field, was no exception.

What was unusual though was one of the taunts chosen by the Canadian faithful: “Free health care, free health care.”

If there is one thing that distinguishes the two neighbouring countries, it is their health care systems.

Canada’s state-funded insurance program, informally known as medicare, ensures a measure of universality and equity in health-care delivery. It is, for better or worse, often held out as this country’s defining feature, our pride and joy. This despite the fact that medicare coverage is far less comprehensive than any other universal health system.

The U.S., as we all know, has a non-system that is far more polarized and less equitable. Those who are insured privately tend to have extensive coverage and great care, while tens of millions of citizens who are uninsured or underinsured pay heavily for their care (to the point where health expenses are a leading cause of bankruptcy) and must sometimes depend on charity.

These distinctions are well known, if frequently exaggerated for political effect.

It is not surprising, then, that the taunts of soccer fans would spark an interesting polemic on Twitter.

Are soccer fans more politically astute and clever than hockey fans, who tend to limit themselves to profundities like “Go Leafs Go” and “Crosby sucks”?

Or, more to the point, do Canadians really think health care is free?

Last year in Canada, we spent an estimated $200.5-billion on health services. About 70 per cent of the total, $141-billon, was paid from public coffers and the other $59.5-billion with private insurance and out-of-pocket.

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To: Jonty30

Thanks very much.


21 posted on 10/26/2015 2:31:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The response to the “free health care” chant is “You'll need it."
22 posted on 10/26/2015 2:33:20 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: MeganC

Canada needs to grow up.

Sounds like they may have. They just had elections. Good luck Canada. Not sure how they went but this could be the first step to success. Who knows.


23 posted on 10/26/2015 2:34:31 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: terycarl

RE: .if it is free to you, I paid for it, if it is free to me, you paid for it...why don’t we just pay for our own??,

Here’s where you can’t win, they will always pull out the compassion card.

What about the poor and lower middle class who cannot afford to pay the doctor for their needed operation?

My liberal friend just cited a working class guy who was given a bill for $5,000 just to have his child delivered.

They work hard but cannot get ahead in life, do you want them to die? Where’s your compassion?

[Not my argument but theirs, you’ll see this repeated by Hillary in the debates]


24 posted on 10/26/2015 2:34:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: napscoordinator

RE: Sounds like they may have. They just had elections

Yep, they voted in Justin Trudeau, a white version of Obama in the North.


25 posted on 10/26/2015 2:36:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
26 posted on 10/26/2015 2:36:35 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Sanders/Cruz in 2016!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hopefully he will do great things for the country. We got screwed in America. Maybe it won’t turn out for them.


27 posted on 10/26/2015 2:38:13 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Wolfie; AmusedBystander

RE: The taxes are about the same between the two countries. Canada gets healthcare, we get a Roman-style military.

So, you recommend a Canadian style universal healthcare for the United States?


28 posted on 10/26/2015 2:38:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: napscoordinator

RE: Hopefully he will do great things for the country.

Well, he has already spoken about two great things he plans to do:

1) Withdraw Canada from the alliance to fight ISIS.

2) Reconsider the Keystone Pipeline


29 posted on 10/26/2015 2:39:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: namvolunteer
You get medical tourism here in the states but they are usually the kind of "medical treatments" that lead your friends to comment after, "you look so well rested".

In other words, Americans go abroad for plastic surgery.

30 posted on 10/26/2015 2:43:05 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: SeekAndFind

oh come now

Obama is a common street boy AA’d up the ladder
tredeau is a blueblood


31 posted on 10/26/2015 2:44:55 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (this time really is different)
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To: Thibodeaux
I'm referring to their politics and their common love is Islam.

See here:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260520/justin-trudeau-canadas-obama-robert-spencer


32 posted on 10/26/2015 2:50:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: napscoordinator

Uh, Canada just tossed a Conservative government in favor of the neo-socialist Liberal Party and the son of Pierre Trudeau (Justin) is to be their new PM. If you think that’s a first step to success then you might be on the wrong forum.

Just saying. (-:


33 posted on 10/26/2015 2:55:44 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MeganC

Well I didn’t know that for one thing. But two we cannot predict the future. No country in the World is dumber then the United States and 2008 and 2012 is proof. Heck even Canada can compete with our stupidity as a whole. Take care FRiend.


34 posted on 10/26/2015 2:59:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most Canadians I’ve known have been honest enough to point out that their healthcare is not “free” as they pay a boatload of taxes for it.


35 posted on 10/26/2015 2:59:28 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: napscoordinator

True. I pay attention to Canadian politics because their Liberal Party has taken a serious interest in our elections and they send money (in violation of our laws) and volunteers to our swing states and they tried hard to toss out Bush in 2004.


36 posted on 10/26/2015 3:02:43 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“Whenever the user considers something to be “free” it will be overused. Ask anybody who works in a Canadian ER.”

Here’s the editor’s voxplanation for why that just isn’t true, by golly:

“...there is actually little evidence that Canadians overuse the system. The long waits for care, both in emergency rooms and in booking physician visits, actually discourage abuse.”


37 posted on 10/26/2015 3:25:51 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife was surprised to discover this as well, coming from the US. Medication is not covered unless you are poor or are lucky enough to have insurance through work.


38 posted on 10/26/2015 3:33:18 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Really? I’d like to meet those Canadians because most I know are either delusional or dishonest.


39 posted on 10/26/2015 3:35:01 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not keep their pants on and not have children until they get a nursing or 3-D printer degree at a community college first?

Very few are “poor souls” in dire need of public assistance THEY MADE CHOICES (irresponsible ones).


40 posted on 10/26/2015 3:40:24 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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