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Re: The Trump/Bush 9/11 keeping America safe debate

Posted on 10/18/2015 12:23:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: CatherineofAragon

Side-stepping and tap-dancing always used when answering is inconvenient. When YOU don’t trust Trump means you trust the RNC Establishment like Karl Rove and his choosing. Which again IF you will be voting it will be a candidate from that establishment, the old-old same politics that hasn’t brought us anywhere, whatsoever, since President Reagan’s two terms. But I take you didn’t trust him either, because he was NOT of YOUR establishment!!!


261 posted on 10/19/2015 10:52:01 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

How does supporting Ted Cruz equate to “trusting the RNC establishment?”

Cruz has spent his political life fighting that establishment.

I’ll stick with the conservative, and I won’t support that Democrat Trump under any circumstances.

If you don’t like it, take your BP meds. I’m done with “trusting” liberals.


262 posted on 10/19/2015 11:05:32 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Jim Robinson
Strong borders are certainly to be preferred, but I don't like to see GWB bashed as a means of bashing JEB. GWB is not popular now, but I believe that future generations will be kinder to his memory.

JEB is beating himself. We don't need to dump on W to beat JEB.

If Trump gets the GOP nomination and Hillary gets the Democrat nomination, who will Trump then blame for 9/11? Will he blame JEB's brother or will he blame Hillary's husband?

I think the answer is obvious.

I want to see Cruz win, but if Trump gets the nomination, I will be happy to enthusiastically support him in the general election.

263 posted on 10/19/2015 11:23:30 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: dynoman

Trump is a liberal wolf in conservative sheep’s clothing. That is poison.


264 posted on 10/19/2015 12:24:31 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

“Trump is a liberal wolf in conservative sheep’s clothing. That is poison.”

No. that is your opinion, not automatically interchangeable with truth, and one that commits the fallacy of too few alternatives.


265 posted on 10/19/2015 12:32:51 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson
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Of course "looking forward is the relevant question" just like you posted!

Of course, I'll take Mr. Trump!!!

BTW, I will NEVER vote for John Ellis Bush.


266 posted on 10/19/2015 12:44:35 PM PDT by onyx ( PLEASE HELP COMPLETE THIS FReepathon THIS MONTH!)
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To: dynoman

But it is my best judgment after evaluating as many facts as I could get, and giving appropriate as I judge it. Of course it’s only my opinion. But on whose opinion should I rely? I’m a pretty good judge of things. I’m confident in my own opinions.


267 posted on 10/19/2015 12:50:21 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: dynoman

You are making some great points here. When you strip everything else away, what you have with Trump is a patriot who will always put the USA first. That is the bedrock core of Trump politically: a nationalist who loves his country and who wants to make America great again. Let’s hope he gets the chance.


268 posted on 10/19/2015 2:27:09 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: sitetest

“But it is my best judgment after evaluating as many facts as I could get, “

You are limiting facts - cherry picking - by not watching the very short part of the rally video I linked. :)


269 posted on 10/19/2015 2:34:10 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Fantasywriter

Do you see any reasonable possibility Trump is lying and a deceiver?


270 posted on 10/19/2015 2:35:18 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: CatherineofAragon

That can be your opinion - but an opinion is not automatically interchangeable with truth. Acting like an opinion is absolute truth is committing the fallacy of too few alternatives.


271 posted on 10/19/2015 2:40:38 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

I don’t view the video as relevant. We all limit data to some degree. It is part of good judgment to decide what facts are important and which are not.


272 posted on 10/19/2015 2:42:13 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: dynoman

Nobody with two brain cells to rub together believes this is all an act. While Trump’s personality doesn’t correlate to narcissism, it is clear that he loves being liked. Yet what the nay chorus is saying is that he would do all this work to get into the WH, and then make certain he was hated, loathed, despised and a laughing stock.

I.e.: if Trump reveals all his promises to have been merely a contemptible act to win the election, those who voted for him would storm the WH with tar, feathers and pitchforks. The idea that this is what Trump wants is beyond ludicrous and into the zone of psychotic.

Plus, as I said, above and beyond all else, Trump loves the USA. If as POTUS he can concomitantly work to make the country great again while becoming a hero in the eyes of those who voted for him...well duh. It doesn’t take a MENSA mentality to figure out what will happen.


273 posted on 10/19/2015 2:51:51 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: sitetest
The video is relevant - it helps one understand why Trump is #1 in polls, even beating Hillary in some.

The phenomena of the Trump effect can only be studied in his rally videos, interviews and pressers. Even Chris Wallace yesterday mentioned “the sheer force of his personality”.

https://youtu.be/mC8NEgPBJdw?t=64

You have to watch this stuff to have an informed opinion.

274 posted on 10/19/2015 3:03:07 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson

My choice would be to deport Jebnesty...


275 posted on 10/19/2015 3:04:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Fantasywriter

Well said!


276 posted on 10/19/2015 3:04:40 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: sitetest

Here’s the interview for yesterday, the one Chris conducted and is talking about; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n97LohAw-1s


277 posted on 10/19/2015 3:07:39 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

I have watched a number of interviews. I was underwhelmed.


278 posted on 10/19/2015 3:46:05 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Any recent ones? Any rally ones?


279 posted on 10/19/2015 4:00:20 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: sitetest

Are you supporting Cruz?


280 posted on 10/19/2015 4:22:49 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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